The thing I dont understand is that I am new and realized that most of the "tutorials" on this site are copied "some with revision" from other sources. But that is also why in my "newbies to gurus, start your engines" post I did not paste in a lot of text, i told the reader where to find the information, after doing so thinking I was being nice, I was flamed by other junior members.

Which shows, no matter what you do, someone will be unhappy.