Or is it because Terr you would not want to hassle someone who has caused you no harm rather than being goody 2 shoes. As for the ethics of a true hacker if they follow the rules and don`t bitch and complain when they get caught then more power to them. What bugs me are the script kiddies who crack and deface sites just to brag about it to their buds. When they get caught they whine and snivel about having to pay for it,what they fail to realize is they caused someone to have to spend time and money to fixing the defaced site.