Highspeed/dial-up war.

[Negative]

Originally posted by stflook
A dial-up connection is a connection to the internet using the user's existing phone-lines. They dial into their ISP to connect.

I'm pretty sure CaseSensitive was joking, Stflook
Your definition isn't correct though. Well, your definition is correct, but you should narrow it down... I have ADSL, and I do the exact thing you described: I use my existing (50 years old!) phone-lines, and I dial into my ISP to connect. The same goes for Gstudios' advantages of dial-up. '(if you) Like getting a new IP addy everytime you get online' could be ADSL too.

Here's a (short) overview of existing technologies:

- Dial-up: a modem converts ('modulates') the digital signals coming from your computer to analog signals, and then puts them on the telephone line. The receiving modem converts ('demodulates') those analog signals back into digital signals.
(MOdulate-DEModulate). Most of those modems use V.90-technology, meaning a theoretical maximum of 56.000 bps (bits per second) download, and 33.600 bps upload. There's a difference between upload and download stream, so we speak about an assymetric connection here. The V.92 protocol should be available by now, too. The differences are a 40% faster upload (theoretically) and a three times faster connection negotation.

- ISDN (Integrated Services Digital Network) : same principle. ISDN uses a digital telephone line instead of an analoge one. Speed is about 64 Kbs. ISDN is a symmetric technology (upload speed = download speed).

- DSL: - ADSL (Assymetric Digital Subscriber Line): ADSL is an extension of the dial-up-technology. It uses the bandwith on your telephone line that is not used for telephony. You'll need a splitter to 'cut' the telephone line. More information can be found here.

- Cable: more information here.

And then there's satellite...
Here's what I know about it: computerdata is coded into an MPEG-videostream. A satellite is capable of sending signals to the earth, but is not capable to take care of the upstream, meaning you'll still need another (broadband) connection.

[digim0rtal]

I used to have DSL when I lived in the city but now that I am back in the sticks I have to settle for a dial-up. Its only five bucks a month though so at least I am getting what I pay for now or vice-versa. Peace.

[stflook]

Originally posted by Negative


I'm pretty sure CaseSensitive was joking, Stflook
Your definition isn't correct though. Well, your definition is correct, but you should narrow it down... I have ADSL, and I do the exact thing you described: I use my existing (50 years old!) phone-lines, and I dial into my ISP to connect. The same goes for Gstudios' advantages of dial-up. '(if you) Like getting a new IP addy everytime you get online' could be ADSL too.

Here's a (short) overview of existing technologies:

- Dial-up: a modem converts ('modulates') the digital signals coming from your computer to analog signals, and then puts them on the telephone line. The receiving modem converts ('demodulates') those analog signals back into digital signals.
(MOdulate-DEModulate). Most of those modems use V.90-technology, meaning a theoretical maximum of 56.000 bps (bits per second) download, and 33.600 bps upload. There's a difference between upload and download stream, so we speak about an assymetric connection here. The V.92 protocol should be available by now, too. The differences are a 40% faster upload (theoretically) and a three times faster connection negotation.

- ISDN (Integrated Services Digital Network) : same principle. ISDN uses a digital telephone line instead of an analoge one. Speed is about 64 Kbs. ISDN is a symmetric technology (upload speed = download speed).

- DSL: - ADSL (Assymetric Digital Subscriber Line): ADSL is an extension of the dial-up-technology. It uses the bandwith on your telephone line that is not used for telephony. You'll need a splitter to 'cut' the telephone line. More information can be found here.

- Cable: more information here.

And then there's satellite...
Here's what I know about it: computerdata is coded into an MPEG-videostream. A satellite is capable of sending signals to the earth, but is not capable to take care of the upstream, meaning you'll still need another (broadband) connection.

Like I said, I was pretty sure I was going to be sorry for taking that question seriously. I am now. So ashamed.........

[tripstone]

so if you run on fifty year old lines how is the connection...mine is pretty raw...of course it all boils down to that winmodem of mine too...maybe I'll get rid of that software Motorola thingy and hookup an external USB modem

[Bad_N3wZ]

Originally posted by tripstone
so if you run on fifty year old lines how is the connection...mine is pretty raw...of course it all boils down to that winmodem of mine too...maybe I'll get rid of that software Motorola thingy and hookup an external USB modem

Wow...thats very high tech, tripstone. You must be a computer genius. Come to think of it all your posts are pretty much the same. Do you actually know anything about security or do you just boost your number of posts with pathetic threads like this?


Stflook-Hope your box is secure.....

[stflook]

Originally posted by Bad_N3wZ
Stflook-Hope your box is secure.....

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but are you THREATENING me!?

[8*B@LL]

Originally posted by Bad_N3wZ
Come to think of it all your posts are pretty much the same.

um...dude all of your post are the same too... they are all "your a moron" "stfu newbie" or "OMG!!@@@! YOU ARE SOO STUPID!@# I AM SO MUCH 13373|2 THAN YOUR DUMB ASS!"

go grab some script kiddie tools, use your 1337 h4x0r skillz to fux0r wit da pentagon, and get yourself put in jail for a very long time. please. i think we would all thank you.

[Therealmaster]

Wow.....did he really say that some people prefer dial ups.... my mates got an adsl line an it rocks especially when comp[ared with my puny 56k modem. And Bad News....it seems that you're the one trying to boost the number of post you've got. Also i wont sink to your level with pathetic insults. This is a general Chit chat board not the 31337 uberhacker board.

[tripstone]

I know absolutely nothing about security...that's why I am here...sorry if I seem "computer illiterate"...I state over and over that I am not a hacker...I am not "l33t"...if you are expecting everyone here to be a security expert...well then that is your dilemna...don't push your little problems off on to me...thank you very much....stick your lips where my sig at the bottom tells you to...

[Havanger]

i never have and never will like dial up. the connections are slow. that's the bottom line, it's slow. and plus, you get kicked off, which is really annoying when your dl a 20mb file. so that's why i hate it

-havanger