Originally posted by Conf1rm3d_K1ll
A wise man once said-
"It's not a good idea to argue with a fool.....people might not be able to tell the difference"
Nice quote, Conf1rm3d_K1ll... It suggests though that argumentation itself is non-productive: sane people will end up looking like foolish people whether their arguments are sane or foolish...
I can't blame MsMittens for not taking that risk, but I'll take it...

I like this one better though:

"Never argue with an idiot. They`ll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
Guess I've got a lot of experience...

Originally posted by Conf1rm3d_K1ll
Ok everyone...lets give up our privacy and freedom because ms mittens is getting a hard time on IRC
Huh? Now who's contradicting himself? So you have the right to personal privacy, but MsMittens doesn't?

(This was a short introduction; what follows next is my actual opinion - just to make sure all the idiots are still following me)

It all comes down to this privacy and freedom of speech thing...
I don't see anything wrong with your ISP keeping logs of everything you do on the internet. Keeping logs is not the same as monitoring, imo. Monitoring your every move would be an invasion of privacy, keeping logs isn't.
Here's a little comparison: fingerprints! Fingerprints? Yes, fingerprints...
Leaving a fingerprint somewhere = your ISP keeping logs of your every move. I've never seen the FBI running around to collect fingerprints (=real-time monitoring)(I've never seen a fed at all, actually... They're not that common in Belgium).
But if you do something illegal, the FBI WILL check for fingerprints, and they WILL track down your every move on the net. I don't see anything wrong with both.

Now, about the freedom of speech... Does that involve hurting other people's feelings (like comparing someone with a nazi)? Sounds to me like a personal privacy-matter. Every privilege has its obligations... Well, they should at least. You guys have the 'privilege' to carry guns, but I guess you should be glad there come some obligations with that too...