Yeah you get rewarded and then you get the credit. Which is good because when you put that on a resume man your not doing debugging for the first three years. It's a good way to atleast get your foot in the door. I'm going to try making a game with the java. I would have to agree the holidays give you plenty of time to do all the nerdy things. I'm finally free of school and I'm focusing on my Bill Pay Reminder Program and I'm going to try to do the Java on the plane on my way to San Diego to meet everyone for christmas.