Palestine.......

[lord_darkside_x]

Meth - that doesn't mean they didn't know about it. but i would never doubt that the government was part of it. it would not be hard for them to do. besides, look how easy it was to convince every one it was bin Laden (who never took official credit, although he mentioned it on a tape that i believe was fake) the reason no other truth has come out is cause every one thinks we got the bad guy, so y look harder? and anyone who brings up the fact anything else could have happened, people either refuse to believe it (cause the gov't is good) or they just think that the person is an idiot or just trying to cause trouble (as we have seen here at ao) so the truth may never come out. do you think the truth ever came out in death of JFK? prolly never will. and i most definitely think they had something to do with the anthrax. the same strain was being made in utah. and haven't you heard about the whole deal with agent orange back during truman's presidency?

[jcmcb]

Lord - Agent Oragne was during the Vietnam era, Nixon I believe....

As for the gov't being invovled, I don;t buy it for the follwoiing cynical reasons:

A. It would be very difficult for the the US Gov't to arrainge ann atcck on both the WTC and Pentagon without worid leaking out..look at watergare and other CIA "actions" that always leak out to the public...
B. If the US Gov't wanted to do this, they would have gone for more smaller events that would be more terrifiying...like they planned back in the 60's.
C. IF the US Gov't were to do this kinda attack...they wouldn't hit two of the largest GOv't Bldgs where they have many offices and get a huge ammount of rent from (thats right the WTC was owned and leased by the NY/NJ Port Authorty, and housed the FBI, ATF, and all those other three letter agencies).

So for those reasons, and some more patriotic and naive ones, I don't by US Gov't inovlvoment!

[Methcook]

Also, look what it did to the economy. It doesnt make any sense that our gov would wanna crash our economy like this and that was the ultimate goal of that ****. If they wanted to destroy the Taliban they could have come up with a reason to do so that was alot less destructive to our own country.

[haraam77]

The united states government already admitted they knew about the attacks before they happened. They were well aware of the situation from repeated threats. I wouldn't doubt they let it happen so they could have an excuse to invade Islamic countries.

[Methcook]

The United States Government didnt admit to anything of the sort. And exactly why would they want an excuse to invade Islamic countries?

[bimmer]

Originally posted here by Misha
Un saludo.

Obviamente, esas imagenes son crudas y duras, pero desde mi punto de vista son sacadas fuera de contexto.

Habiendo como hay un conflicto Belico donde los perjudicados son los Israelies, este tipo de imagenes no ayuda a nada a contribuir a la lucha por la paz en oriente medio.

Puestos poner imagenes, por que no pones la de los hombres bomba que se deflagran en un pizza hut, asesinando niños tambien, esas fotos son acciones de guerra, son daños colaterales inevitables.

Son los Palestinos los culpables de su situacion.

PD. Sorry If you do not understand spanish, but i guess that if I understood what your post said, certainlyu you wil bee able to understand mine.

Misha Orangenbaum

we sure understand

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Originally posted by Misha
A greeting. Obviously, those images are raw and hard, but since my point of view they are removed out of context. Having as there is a conflict Belico where the perjudicados they are the Israelies, this type of images does not help to nothing to contribute to it fights by the peace in medium east. Positions to put images, because not you put that of the men bomb that itself deflagran in a pizza hut, murdering neitherños tambien, those photos are actions of war, they are givesños inevitable collaterals. They are the Palestinos the guilty of their situacion.
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actually . it's a point of view, as well u can find allot of sites which shows the other side pics, and openions.

but do they have another choice to kill instead of a pizza bomber .. do they have the weapons that israelis have .. i think if they had such a thing it will be a fare war to start.
and the real end of israel.

[Methcook]

Your'e correct. Israel is way better armed than rthe Palestinians. War is never fair though. This is how it oges. If the Palestinians were smart they would give peace talks a chance and comprimise. They wont do this though. Survival of the fittest will eventually take care of the problem. There is no doubt about that.

[bimmer]

when they gave chance for peace talk before, israeil did but, on the other hand they were Colonizing in my country,
where was the Un and USA and the European community then.
how could we proceed with the peace process in that case.

[Methcook]

You actually live there? That hasta be rough.

I think the US played a huge role in the peace talks. If I;m not mistaken both Sharon and Arrafat met at camp David in the US. Arrafat backed out at the last minute for no known reason. IMO he's a wingnut and your country will do much better if you get rid of him. That's just my opinion though and I realize that most of what I nkow about him comes from CNN and they could be a tad biased.

"israeil did but, on the other hand they were Colonizing in my country,"

Israel thinks it's their country right? No progress will ever be made on the Palestinian side until a true cease fire is called and talks begin. It's more than obvious that attacking the Israelis is very counter productive to what you guys are trying to accomplish.

[bimmer]

regarding arafat .. as for me, i don't like this guy...
as for israelis they think it's their country, i would like to tell u that most of israelis want to leave what they call their country, what a loyal ppl. they have down there.
as for my ppl. they would rather to die in their country but not leaving it... althought they have a 2nd choice, which we all know "Jordan"
but they won't leave.
that's a final answer ... and believe me .. my openion count here.. i'm a palestenian, and half of my family died there protecting our lands and families.