Ya, I bet they are stealthed, becuase I did an "IP scan" (it supposedly finds open ports), and it didn't show any. BUT, when I did a PORT scan, it said stuff like, "port #23 is active" etc. I can email it to him, and I'm going to try to disguise it using Silk Rope, but there is still a problem, I have done it, I sent him Sub7 server, he got it fine, but when I tried to connect to his "supposed ip address and the default subseven port number, which is 1243, it would not connect. This may have been his firewall. He did say that when I tried to connect, his firewall alarmned him that there was an intruder trying to get in , and even gave him my ip. Well, I know that some parts of subseven worked, becuase it did send me an ICQ message telling me his ip.

PS - I have used sub7 succesfully on my other computer, since I have two phone lines, and desktop and laptop, and it worked fine. I emailed myself the file, and opened it on the other computer. It connected very fast, and did it with the default port number 1243.

- sampsonsa