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April 26th, 2002, 04:58 PM
#11
when you don't drink you remain in sound mind
I'd add, "only if you were of sound mind to begin with" to that.
You are right, Hitler was very inteligent individual. But social forces caused him to be misguided. Unfortunately, he was also a very charismatic person, so people actually listened to him...
Nationalism is a powerful motivator, it causes people to stop asking questions. Patriotism is also a powerful motivator, but it necessitates questions. Unfortunately, most people don't look at those subtle differences, and start calling patriots subversives.
When all else fails, ask questions. Maybe someone will be able to answer them, but at least someone might pause and think. The devils advocate is an important possition in society, without it we might plunge headfirst into the shallow end of the pool.
dhej
The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of dusk. -Hegel
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April 26th, 2002, 05:06 PM
#12
i respect all religions, as a philosophy, but, to be more clear, i despise the organization that tends to go with it. It because greatly beaurocratic most of the time, and usually the beliefs are lost in a realm of political and social bullshit. Its not about the religion to many of the higher level churches, its more of a power game.
i have a great amount of respect for the ideas of all religions.
i gotta start being clearer with what i write, lol
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April 26th, 2002, 05:36 PM
#13
Talk about twisting reality to suit your point. nothing like having a soution looking for a problem. I would've voted for B anyway. I would rather have a guy who has an open mind and does what he wants than someone who holds himself back. It shows more character.
Nice try proving a point that doesn't need to be proved. It would be great if you had 20/20 hindsight before the fact but you don't, so....
Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it.
- Samuel Johnson
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April 27th, 2002, 03:19 AM
#14
Hitler had mein kampf ghost written for him. He merely put his name to the work.
No, I don't believe he was a very intelligent individual. He was smart. He was an opportunist, and shrewd but not highly intelligent. He also possessed a magnetic personality but certainly was not exceptional.
About not knowing if God exists, Dhej - I suppose that will be answered right after someone dies.
Trappedagainbyperfectlogic.
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April 30th, 2002, 02:27 AM
#15
Dhej, thanks anyway ....
but if u don't think that god exist, then how come u do ...
i'll list u a small part from the Quran of Islam.
by the name of god
"He, it is Who has created you (Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah [mixed semen drops of male and female discharge (i.e. Adam's offspring)] then from a clot (a piece of coagulated blood), then brings you forth as children, then (makes you grow) to reach the age of full strength, and afterwards to be old (men and women), though some among you die before, and that you reach an appointed term, in order that you may understand"
well, ... science just prove it years ago ... and god mentioned that fact long time ago ,... i think this is a small sign from god showing peeps who don't know if they r here or not here that god do exist ...
if u need more facts... just ask .
When the power of Love overcomes the Love of power, the world will know peace... Jimi Hendrix
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I dream of giving birth to a child who will ask...... what was war?
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April 30th, 2002, 03:53 PM
#16
"He, it is Who has created you (Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah [mixed semen drops of male and female discharge (i.e. Adam's offspring)] then from a clot (a piece of coagulated blood), then brings you forth as children, then (makes you grow) to reach the age of full strength, and afterwards to be old (men and women), though some among you die before, and that you reach an appointed term, in order that you may understand"
Umm, dude, it doesn't take a genious to figure out that if a man has sex with a women, then she might get pregnant.
Just because I don't believe God exists, doesn't mean that I believe God doesn't exist.
Just as we used to think that passage was the extent of how we replicate, and now we know that there exist such things as the sperm and then egg, and we can identify different stages of the cell splitting. Now we recognize evolution and the big bang as the possible creation of the Universe.
But science is limited, so we don't know everything else. But, just because most people don't split atoms in their basement, doesn't mean that science is wrong.
if u need more facts... just ask .
Facts, by definition, have to be varifiably true. The sun rises in the morning, and sets in the evening. That is a fact. Pigs cannot fly. That is a fact.
But, and possible statement about God cannot be a fact. Unless you bring God in for show and tell, or can offer photographs of him chilling in the Heavenly Kingdom, all you are doing is speculating.
See, I don't use religion to explaiin the unexplainable, I use philosophy to identify what is and isn't relevant.
If God exist, great. If he doesn't, oh well.
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April 30th, 2002, 04:05 PM
#17
god exists in the mind... i dont think there is anything outside of our minds watching over us... its all psychoscematic (cant spell)
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April 30th, 2002, 05:15 PM
#18
Hitler had mein kampf ghost written for him.
the original text was found in his handwriting and dates to the time when he was in prison. this is what historians say (i asked one) but who can you blelieve?
Learn like you are going to live forever, live like you are going to die tomorrow.
Propoganda
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April 30th, 2002, 10:57 PM
#19
lord_darkside_x - quite correct. My point was Hitler had borrowed most of the themes for his work from his ghost writer, then put them into his writings. Which, is not really a rare thing at all for writers to do.
Trappedagainbyperfectlogic.
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May 1st, 2002, 08:26 AM
#20
Dhej, i can see that u r dealing with everything in a shallow way.
why do we have minds, ... to think in a deep way
When god told us 100 years ago …
"He, it is Who has created you (Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah [mixed semen drops of male and female discharge (i.e. Adam's offspring)] then from a clot (a piece of coagulated blood), then brings you forth as children, then (makes you grow) to reach the age of full strength, and afterwards to be old (men and women), though some among you die before, and that you reach an appointed term, in order that you may understand"
who at that time knew the sequence of human forming inside uterus “womb “,
ok, that everybody knows when man sperms get to woman .. there will be a baby … but what stages this baby get through to form the human being ???
that what god gave us as a sign of his existence.
If u need an analysis for what I wrote from the Quran:
1- He, it is Who has created you (Adam) from dust, ( u see from Dust )
2- then from a Nutfah [mixed semen drops of male and female discharge (i.e. Adam's offspring)]
3- then from a clot (a piece of coagulated blood)
4- then brings you forth as children
5- then (makes you grow) to reach the age of full strength
6- and afterwards to be old (men and women),
7- though some among you die before
and that you reach an appointed term, in order that you may understand
When the power of Love overcomes the Love of power, the world will know peace... Jimi Hendrix
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I dream of giving birth to a child who will ask...... what was war?
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