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July 18th, 2002, 03:51 AM
#21
Junior Member
The only people who are going to buy from wal-mart are those looking for lindows, a cheap computer, or something that they only need for a while. Those clones won't last very long, look at that price, either that or their hardware is lame. And who said this thread was only for businesses? And
Computer users are not morons and diserve a better GUI the XP.
Have you used it? I'm going to guess no. And x-windows doesn't have a very nice gui, plus people rip off the windows and mac layouts. Thats lame.
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July 18th, 2002, 04:22 AM
#22
Senior Member
Originally posted here by phprules
Have you used it? I'm going to guess no. And x-windows doesn't have a very nice gui, plus people rip off the windows and mac layouts. Thats lame.
Actually I think both KDE and Gnome have much better GUI's than Windows. I'm not quite sure if you mean the developers try to rip off windows and mac layouts - or - users custimize their desktops to mock that of windows and Mac. KDE, Gnome, Elightenment, Fluxbox, etc all have their own look so I hope you don't mean that. I would agree many users, usually newer ones try to customize their desktops to apear similar to windows and Mac. I don't think that's lame everyone has their tastes and new users try to create a somewhat familiar atmosphere.
As for the article- first off no where in the article does it say that linux sucks. I think the author brought up a few good points and a few not so great points- but overall he was looking from the perspective of an average computer user migrating over to linux. I don't know how many noticed but there is a link to his other article about the top 10 problems that Linux has resolved.
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July 18th, 2002, 04:43 AM
#23
Member
X windows looks bad ?! When there are soo many window managers! It still looks so bad ? Hehe, I hear speeches like these first time ever. Have those guys used linux or freebsd ever? I suppose not.
A little about copying of GUI.
A little of history here. Windows (I mean the very first version) copied this "windowed" guy from macOS. What do you say now ? Who's a thief a? Lets remember ms-dos. Bill have bought it (dos) from IBM for $100 cosmeticaly tweaked it and named it ms-dos. MS haven't wrote it from scrath. And then on base of ms-dos they created windows 1.0. So who's a lame copier ?
Give man a fish and he will ask for more.
Teach man to fish and he will never ask again.
\"Chinese proverb\"
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July 18th, 2002, 02:30 PM
#24
Originally posted here by ArmyOfOne
I've had problems with sound cards, and when you want to update your sound card you have to recompile the kernel. Not very efficient.
*EDIT* I love Linux, all I am saying is that like all OS's, it can use some improvements.
Umm, you're doing it wrong if you need to recompile your kernel every time. Almost all distros ship with module support built in, so to install the correct module it would be a simple insmod or modprobe command, not a kernel recompile.
Chris Shepherd
The Nelson-Shepherd cutoff: The point at which you realise someone is an idiot while trying to help them.
\"Well as far as the spelling, I speak fluently both your native languages. Do you even can try spell mine ?\" -- Failed Insult
Is your whole family retarded, or did they just catch it from you?
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July 18th, 2002, 03:33 PM
#25
Originally posted here by chsh
Umm, you're doing it wrong if you need to recompile your kernel every time. Almost all distros ship with module support built in, so to install the correct module it would be a simple insmod or modprobe command, not a kernel recompile.
and on some like RedHat and i think Mandrake it will autodetect on boot up for hardware changes. I know when i swapped motherboard from a AMD K62 500 to a Soyo AMD 600 Athlon Redhat 7.1 detected it and installed the right modules and was up and running with no problems.
[gloworange]\"A hacker is someone who has a passion for technology, someone who is possessed by a desire to figure out how things work.\" [/gloworange]
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July 18th, 2002, 05:12 PM
#26
Member
Even if it requires kernel recompilation it's easy task even for newbie.
Give man a fish and he will ask for more.
Teach man to fish and he will never ask again.
\"Chinese proverb\"
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July 18th, 2002, 08:01 PM
#27
Linux has changed quite a bit since previous distributions, especially Red Hat. I was able to install Red Hat Linux 7.2 on my Compaq Presario and not only did it have all of my sound & video drivers, but it even installed drivers for a network card automatically that i would have otherwise had to install manually under windoze.
Think about this....
Windows is designed with $$$ && marketting as the primary design factor. East to use, easy to sell. Quality and security is not important in the main product, they slowly make garbage update releases to further expose your system.
Linux on the other hand is designed by programmers who are making the product with the first design factor being the user, quality,stability not a market driven product. Linux is for the people, not for profit. That is what M$ is so afraid of.
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July 18th, 2002, 09:43 PM
#28
Originally posted here by uid(zer0)
Even if it requires kernel recompilation it's easy task even for newbie.
Not when your new kernels continually refuse to boot. (After, oh, what, ten differently-configured-and-compiled versions on the LILO list?) Oh, and you have to reboot with a good kernel and check logs to understand that it can't open the local console. Oh, and you have to fiddle with every single local-console-related item within the pre-compilation settings... and then descend into the labyrinth of /dev...
No, not for newbies unless everything is already perfectly set up.
[HvC]Terr: L33T Technical Proficiency
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July 18th, 2002, 10:59 PM
#29
Member
Not when your new kernels continually refuse to boot.
Of course thing like this could happen if you don't know the hardware you working on, or if you don't know you need ppp networking or not.
(but acctually I don't know how, unless you're using 1.0 kernel and have very new hardware)
But if you don't know these things, then go better play with kids baseball or something. You're not worth newbie's name. Computers aren't for you.
Give man a fish and he will ask for more.
Teach man to fish and he will never ask again.
\"Chinese proverb\"
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July 18th, 2002, 11:19 PM
#30
on the subject of games: there are very few strategy games for linux. I guess that might make some people complain, not me. I play 50% rpg, 40% fps, 10% strategy.
But.......Neverwinter Nights & all Blizzard games (warcraft iii, diablo ii) are out for linux, and that makes up for all of it .
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