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July 23rd, 2002, 06:23 PM
#21
real AI is able to learn for itself. But what is being done here is that they are providing the information for the computer to use. However the computer is not really able to go through the expirence much like a regular child would learn. Instead we are simply feeding it information.
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July 23rd, 2002, 06:27 PM
#22
Junior Member
Got to agree with Hot_Ice. The AI is just a computer with loads of facts in it. If we withheld some of the facts from it it won't be able to cause problems in the long run. Do we really want AI to go so far as 'for a really bad example' the matrix. In the end its what we do with the AI that counts not what it does.
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July 23rd, 2002, 07:24 PM
#23
Quote from Terminator
Ill Be Back!
Do we want AI. Im sure well be able to program a totally independant system which can think and learn but what are the consequences of that. This more a political debate than a technological debate. AI may help but it may hurt to.
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July 23rd, 2002, 08:22 PM
#24
Junior Member
"I think therefore I am"
Rene Descartes
"What me worry"
Alfred E. Newman
Murphy was an optimist ...
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July 23rd, 2002, 09:04 PM
#25
the important part to remember here is that they are not putting in "answers"...in the traditional sense
they are putting in "experience"
programs are inherently bad at extrapolation and causality since it is very hard to program common sense things that we all take for granted.
Ask Cyc whether al-Qaida might possess anthrax, and it will tell you it presumes you are not referring to the heavy-metal band Anthrax
seems kind of amusing..it is quite remarkable that is "smart" enough to ask the question in the first place..we have to remember that it wasn't programmed with..
if var1=anthrax then
msgbox ("do you mean the band or the disease?")
because to do that would be impossible. you'd have to code an answer to every possible question....even so the amount of information to ask this simple question is pretty amazing
it's with these common sense things that this group hopes to provide the program a way to produce sensible answers, and that's what AI is all about...whether it "thinks"...or whether it "appears to think" is irrelevant...
for all you t2 lovers...you'll enjoy this..
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/page...2748&usrsess=1
one of my fav sites on ai is
http://www.kurzweilai.net/
check out
Are We Spiritual Machines
http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame...st.html?m%3D19
I used to be With IT. But then they changed what IT was. Now what I'm with isn't IT, and what's IT seems scary and weird." - Abe Simpson
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July 23rd, 2002, 09:15 PM
#26
Banned
ok, two things to consider, one once we have artificial inteligence when will its learning capabilitys be advanced enuf to call it true inteligence? wheres the line between artificial and real?
ok and the second, humans dont learn without interaction. if you cut off ALL sensery information to the brain (so that it was just like the brain alone)it wouldnt learn cause it has nothing to go on......... the computer has no sence of touch (generaly speeking..... theres keyboards and mice but nothing as advanced as an animal system to sence touch) hearing (ok, again, a microphone but its also nowhere near the animal systems) sight (cameras........ again......) smell and taste (which have no equivelant that i can think of)...... so by saying that a program needs to learn on its own in order to be real AI, your setting a double standard, you wont learn either if you never came out of the womb either. so whats a more realistic standard for defining when something is AI given a computers limeted input. also, something dosnt have to be self aware to be AI (or is this the argument for intelegent life?)....... but it could be argued that the machine IS self aware. if you were to ask it if it exists im guessing that it would say that it does exist, and is therefor self aware......... there for is so called inteligent life, yet is not an artificial intelegence....... that kinda only leaves intelegence........ hmmmmm that was more than i was planning to type..... i hate when i get on these brainstorming streaks....... i just cant stop talking.......
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July 23rd, 2002, 09:42 PM
#27
Senior Member
What is the point to create a machine that can think. Feeding it information is like teaching achild how to do something. This is fine but that child is aware of itself and those around it. This machine will not be "aware" of those "beings" around it nor will it be self aware.
AI is scarey stuff especially if you combine it with nano-technology. Self-replicating microsystems which can work together like one system. Ah... we are talking T2 here aren't we...
My other Computer is a 4000 node Beowulf Custer
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