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July 23rd, 2002, 09:06 PM
#11
Member
Originally posted here by cutty
Sorry avdven but I already know that. I just wanted to know if there was a way, in other words, to create mutual servers. Which ever computer connects first becomes the server on the network. So that, either computer doesn't need to dial in through the other.
All due respect...
Well you could install ICS software (not necessarily M$'s ICS) on both computers and when one dials the net, the other computer would have to reconfigure their gateway to match the IP of the computer that dialed the net.
If done manually, it would be a real hassle (I think you have to reboot windows to change gateways.. ) I am not sure if there is software to do this for you or not. You might be able to write some kind of script, but my knowledge of windows scripting is too limited to answer that.
It would be best to buy a router that has a builtin 56k modem, or aquire an old PI (or simillar) and use it s a dedicated dial in box.
--Sudo
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July 23rd, 2002, 10:30 PM
#12
Banned
I've already tried connecting a DSL connection through a HUB and it doesn't work especially if you have a USB modem. If you're just setting up a regular internet sharing network then just stick with a router like asante or linksys then connect the computers together. If there is a network already present then just hook your HUB up to the WAN port on the router or switch. To me, it sounds like your sort of in a way trying to create a token ring.*Just adding from my point of view*
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July 23rd, 2002, 10:55 PM
#13
Azn_Acid, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. You're correct that a USB DSL modem will not connet to a hub or router (unless, of course, you have a USB modem-enabled router, which do exist). That doesn't really apply, though, since he already has a network in place, but is using dial-up, not broadband connections.
Also, to connect to a preexisting network, you must connect a standard port on the hub to an uplink port on a switch/router with a straight through cable or connect the two using standard ports on each with a crossover cable. The WAN connection is used to connect to a Wide Area Network (such as the Internet, via a DSL or cable modem).
You also talk about a token ring network. I think that you need to do some further research regarding token ring networks. Token ring networks (quite different from ethernet networks, which he is running) were created by IBM. A token ring isn't a specific topology, it's an entirely different project model (802.5). If you to learn more about token ring networks, check out the 802.5 standard at www.ieee.org or do a search on Google.
AJ
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July 23rd, 2002, 11:07 PM
#14
Banned
Well, thx for the info adven, I guess I didn't read thoroughly enough. I'm still trying to catch on to the aspects of the networking area.
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July 24th, 2002, 01:21 AM
#15
Senior Member
MultiTech make a dialup router which is not that expensive which does dial on demand routing to any dialup connection... it is nice little product for location that might not have DSL or Cable servicing their area. You can also multi-link two modem to the connection (128K in theory)
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Here the link to the MultiTech site and the dial router
http://www.multitech.com/DOCUMENTS/datasheets/487.asp
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My other Computer is a 4000 node Beowulf Custer
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July 24th, 2002, 01:57 AM
#16
Hey, interesting piece of hardware!
I would then have to change my first answer to "yes: see paldie's post!" 
Didn't know of any company that did a dial-up router...
Ammo
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July 24th, 2002, 02:27 AM
#17
Senior Member
We are using these for clients who are in remote areas dialing into a Cisco Router (similar to an ISP setup where the user dials up a connection for internet. Only this is private net) The area in faily remote and does not have DSL in many of the out lying areas. But this allows us to do DDR from the client side when the client needs to access a network device the router dials and it is tranparent to the user. It just add latency on the initial connection.
My other Computer is a 4000 node Beowulf Custer
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July 24th, 2002, 05:30 AM
#18
Member
hey , u can use Dlink Router .. Which is easy to configure for dialup connection . it doesn't cost much.
Be Cool ..
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July 25th, 2002, 03:00 AM
#19
Banned
You can do this just and I'd tell you exactly how but I don't know your configuration. If you have windows then:
Dial up with computer1 you'll get a valid WAN side IP. Then Set up internet connection sharing and use DHCP to give computer2, your your other computer, an ip address. With DSL or cable you shouldnt have any problem at all. If you have a good ISP such as Earthlink then you get 3 sessions on their redback server so if one times out then you can still be connected, earthlink doesn't necessarily want you to know this; but you can use this to your advantage. Earthlink has some good docs out there, or did. I didn't have the time to read these docs but here is a link to some info from Earthlink that might help out.
http://support.earthlink.net/support...key=connecting
Another solution, albeit, not cost effective, would be to buy a cheap router.
Cachinga
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July 25th, 2002, 03:02 AM
#20
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