Thanks for the suggestions Euclid, but no joy I'm afraid. I've had IE on the lowest security settings, deleted all cookies and internet temp files, tried opening a new window each time, stopped my firewall and AV but still can't download. Having gone through the AntiOnline Site Security Notice page > welcome mookie > AntiOnline Site Security Notice page > welcome mookie infinite loop I can use my back button to go back to the main page, refresh it and it still shows I'm logged on. It's got to be something set on my PC that this site doesn't like because The Old Man had no problems and I can download from other sites. Still I suppose this is one way of learning. One last thought crossed my mind. Do you have to do something special before you can download, like be a member for a certain time, post so many posts or upload something first? Thanks for all your help.