AntiOnline.com Sells Visitor Information to Law Enforcement

[RiOtEr]

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thats most of the points valid to this thread you have been told its sharing it with partners etc etc wich im sure is standered practice throught buisness personally i dont give a **** i mean what info can they gather that they couldnt gather of any other forum do you think that the "feds" dont know how to sign up to a forum and copy and paste ?

and the auther of that page obviously has a problem with jp its not the first anti jp / antionline article that has been published their sure jp may have done stupid things (keyword may) but who the **** hasnt
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[Jehnny]

Truthfully, I don't give a crap if my info is being sold or not. Everything that I have registered with this site (location, website, email address, etc) is all fake. If you can make a buck off of selling fake information of mine, be my guest to use it. I couldn't care any less. I think people should quit complaining about this type of thing and get on with information-sharing. If ya don't like it, leave.

[imaginedsanity]

Just an elaboration on what's been said. Yeah, so what if we're being studied for behavioral patters. So what if our posts are being monitored and publicly available. Last I knew, this was a public site, and anybody with a connection could watch almost everything you do here. As a security site, it would only be expected that studies of the people who join would be done. If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about anyways, and chances are, the research that might be done on your personna would be that of a non criminal. You would probably be compared to a criminal, in an attempt to look for differences in behavioral patters. I'd considered that something to be proud of, not something to scoff at and get all pissed off about.

[Juridian]

Erm...if you have soo many problems with them collecting your information and selling it to people (if that is indeed the case) then possibly you should have read his legal text better before you signed your life away?

[Crimina1]

Originally posted here by gghornet
First off,it doesn't look like veritas is close to being banned.
Second,I think he was referring to the gray dot under his name that has since turned green,not a threat someone made.
Third,if you're doing something illegal,JP has every right to hand that info to the proper authorities if he feels that would be the proper course of action.I wouldn't personnaly do that,but there's nothing wrong with turning in a criminal.
Finally,noone's jumping to JP's defense.Just stating the fact that it is a little bit rediculous to accuse a site of being for the purpose of monitering the "Hacker Underground" when any time people mention knowingly doing(or thinking of doing) something illegal,people jump all over them.

first:
No one is blaming the "site" as a matter a fact antionline is a great place for people to come and learn about computer security.It's the person that's running the site (JP) that is the one that is doing the monitering for the FBI,that is where the problem lies.
Second:veritas was not talking about a dot,he clearly stated and I quote "I guess not cause now I got a notice that I'm close to being banned".someone sent that to him and it wasn't about a dot.

I would also like to point out that I constantly hear people say that this site doesn't promote hacking and that it's just about computer security,well In order to be able to learn how to secure ones computer a person should also know how to break into one other wise how do you really become a geat security expert.
learning how to hack into a box is just a important as learning how to secure one they both work off the other.I always hear people being flamed for asking how to get an ip addy or something in the neigborhood and being told that this site isn't about that,I say give them the info and let them decide what to do with it
after all it's all about learning and like I've said before you cant learn how to secure a computer without also learning how to hack into one.This site does promote hacking all you have to do to find that is go into the security downloads section and you can find any exploit ,viri,or text on how to break into anything so lets not get it twisted people.
Remember that at one time everyone here no matter how great they are today with computers at one time you also were newbies and knew nothing,dont forget that someone helped you to get to where your at today.It's all about learning what you chose to do with that info once you learn it is up to the individual.

Finally unless you work for the FBI and have a badge and a weekly check than it's not ones job to turn over anyone nor spy on anyone for the FBI,if that's what someone wants to do than they should fill out the FBI application and become a Gman,not put up a website to help the feds secretly get info on hackers.

Crimina1

[tampabay420]

Like any of the information in my profile is real (ie- names, numbers, address')

AO, lol- sell it all you want :-)

[gghornet]

You don't have to break into a box without permission to learn how to do it.All you have to do is ask a friend or family member to let you hack theirs.I agree that you have to know how to break into a system to be able to stop somone from breaking into yours,but there's more than one way to skin a cat.
That being said,the notice that veritas got was more than likely the message that pops up when your AP's go to gray/red saying that you need to up the quality of your posts or you will be banned.You should be able to see it yourself on your screen.
Finally,if you have such a problem with JP why the hell are you here.He works his ass off to make this site possible,listen and implement peoples site suggestions,and make as fun and informative as possible.He didn't have to make this site,and probably has to take time out of his day on a regular basis,when mind you he could be doing something more exciting than adding features for your convenience,to maintain things here and keep the skiddys from defacing things and/or stealing your info.

And by the way,without JP there would be no antionline,so by blaming him you are blaming the site.

[gore]

if only there was a message icon with a middle finger...
ok for my first ever anti online flame:

"No one is blaming the "site" as a matter a fact antionline is a great place for people to come and learn about computer security.It's the person that's running the site (JP) that is the one that is doing the monitering for the FBI,that is where the problem lies.
Second:veritas was not talking about a dot,he clearly stated and I quote "I guess not cause now I got a notice that I'm close to being banned".someone sent that to him and it wasn't about a dot."

who cares if hes monitoring for the feds? if you dont wanna get in trouble then maybe you shouldnt do things that will get you locked up, specially when people make posts saying ohh look i can get into hotmail!!!! dude what kind of an idiot would you have to be????? any site with computer security in it already has agents looking around and they have a right to just like we do. maybe there looking to open there horizons of computer telligence (hehe i made that word up) and what better way to learn than from the people that share?


"Finally unless you work for the FBI and have a badge and a weekly check than it's not ones job to turn over anyone nor spy on anyone for the FBI,if that's what someone wants to do than they should fill out the FBI application and become a Gman,not put up a website to help the feds secretly get info on hackers."

yea it might not be our job, but if you ever took social studies then you know it IS your job as a citizen to turn criminals in if they are doing something they shouldnt, im sorry to hurt your feelings (actually im enjoying it) but if i saw someone getting raped i wouldnt stand there and be like oh well im not getting paid for it, no id knock the person unconciouse and calls the cops.
and as far as him getting a notice for getting banned, if you wouldv read the site FAQs about anti points, when you get negged you can get banned SO IT WAS A GREY DOT that really was what he meant, which means he was getting negged for making idiotic posts, next time your gunna shoot your mouth off at least make sure you didnt load it with blanks.

(ohhh looky at me im a newbie too and im standing up for a site i love)

[eddiemontose]

Alot of you are thinking it would be about money. I am not saying it is going on and I am not saying that it isnt going on. What I am saying is if it is going on this would be the one time that something wasnt about money (I know its hard to believe). It would be about demographics of the type of people that go to this site. It would be about what they do while they are here ( look at the downloads, you know it is keepin tabs on what you download ) It would be about studying and info gathering. But again thats what i would think it would be about and again I am not saying its happining and I am not saying that it isnt. I am Switzerland on this one.

[sweet_angel]

It seems to me... we have "Two same posted here.."

http://www.antionline.com/showthrea...threadid=236692