I tend to draw upon my own impressions of people seen a few people while perhaps still linger in doing bad things time to time were banned to come back and yep still earn points, don't think it was because people sided with them but because enough people make up their own minds when handing out points, if a small group wants to promote their members at some point and enough points their knowledge will run out and the will suffer foot in mouth syndrone. Fact is I don't like some of my points especally where I'm negged about M$ products and "They" want to know what OS I support. I don't bitch about them often find I learn more from why I was negged and the comments made because I have a better understanding of the person that gave the neg then they do of me. Things like what buttons to push if I want to or better put need to use to make a valid point. I never trust anything forwareded to me over the web after all I still get Warbbler and MS IP virus warnings forwarded to me all of them pure and simple hoax's. Is perhaps the frrward yet the true alliance people actually believing it?

Peace