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December 26th, 2002, 04:26 PM
#11
gollum was green in ralph bakshi's cartoons. maybe thats what you were thinking?
From http://web.umr.edu/~gdoty/classes/fa...s/tlor-4-1.PDF
Gollum's physical appearance
This topic is important because (1) some critics find racism in TLOR and the associations of "black" with evil can be used to support such a charge; (2) how one visualizes Gollum affects how one conceives the character. (I once met a woman who thought hobbits "looked like moles" because they live in holes in the ground; the mutant toad version of Gollum in the animated Hobbit can distort a reader’s perception).
278: This paragraph presents Gollum as he appears at night under specific lighting conditions ("pale moonlight"). (Note also the simile with an insect or spider).
319/320: Gollum is described as he appears in full daylight—like a starving human child and bone-white.
We think of a thing's color in full daylight as being its "real" color, but of course color is not a
property of the thing but of the visual process. Thus whatever color is seen is the "real" color.
Tolkien’s descriptions of Gollum are thus phenomenologically accurate, although readers might
remember only one description and think of that as Gollum's real color.
peter jackson is a brilliant director. apparently he is a huge lord of the rings fan and is trying to stay as close to the book as possible. i give him credit for even attempting the feat.
anyone who followed peter jackson's older work will realize this is not one of his typical movies. a couple of my favorites:
1. braindead or dead alive (notably the bloodiest movie of all time) in which zoo acquires a rat monkey, ignores the warnings of evil revenge and displays. our hero's wicked mother accidentally gets bitten while the hero gets smitten with a spanish tart. mom starts popping out zombies and of course everyone bitten becomes a zombie as well. culminates in a fantastic scene with our hero weilding a lawn mower against the onslaught of zombies. blood everywhere.
2. meet the feebles: muppets gone horribly wrong. lead singer is a hippo, having a fling with the producer, who is in the mob. knife thrower addicted to heroin, rabbit star with aids, porno movies created in the basement, etc. its a beautiful thing.
also by jackson: bad taste, the frighteners, heavenly creatures, forgotten silver and of course, lotr
just like water off a duck\'s back... I AM HERE.
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December 26th, 2002, 06:39 PM
#12
If you read the book carefully, you'll find that the movie people have actually rendered Gollum faithfully. The only reason you tend to think of him as green (yes, me too) is because Tolkein keeps mentioning the green light in his eyes. I tend to think of Gollum as a green, gremlin like creature, though I know that that isn't an accurate picture at all.
Cheers,
cgkanchi
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December 26th, 2002, 10:20 PM
#13
I have just seen the Two Towers and realized that Peter Jackson have made a major change with the Arwen role. She's normally not in the second book! She has nothing to do in this movie.
And I really don't understand why all the characters have blue eyes. I'll search in LOTR but i'm sure that Tolkien can't have described ALL his characters with blue eyes!
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December 27th, 2002, 03:57 AM
#14
Junior Member
Why did they go through all that trouble of making this character with computers graphics and animation, when all they had to do was to put Michael Jackson in there and make him say preciousss? Think about it!
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December 29th, 2002, 02:33 AM
#15
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loved the movie and the book equally. gollum is so cute! awesome thread idea rcgreen.
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