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June 21st, 2003, 08:49 PM
#11
Out comes the truth...
Two months after the 'rescue', it turns out to be one big lie.
The Washington Post was the first newspaper to bring the detailed story of Lynch's 'capture' and 'rescue'. The paper wrote that Jessica had fought bravely after her unit was ambushed by Iraqi units. She killed several enemies, got stabbed and shot at herself, but didn't want to give up... This Washington Post-story was picked up by newspapers around the world. This week, the Post published another story... They admitted they lied... This time, the Post wasn't first. The BBC already revealed that the Lynch-story was a propaganda-myth...
The programme said the story of her rescue was "one of the most stunning pieces of news management ever conceived"
, the BBC concludes, polite as ever.
The Washington Post-investigation admits that... "Our original story smelled like propaganda", Michael Getler (ombudsman for the Post) said...
Now... what did really happen...
On March 23, the fourth day of the war, Lynch and her unit entered Nasiriya, a town still under Iraqi control. All troops had been ordered to avoid Nasiriya, but someone forgot to warn Lynch's unit. They got lost and the vehicle got shot at by the Iraqi's. They immediately turned around, but hit an American truck. Three soldiers immediately died, Lynch and another soldier got seriously hurt. Jessica didn't fire one single shot. She wasn't shot at either.
Jessica was unconscious. She probably would have died if Iraqi soldiers wouldn't have brought her to the Nasiriya military hospital. The other wounded soldiers died shortly after arriving at that hospital. Lynch had a head-wound and had broken both arms and legs.
She was given a blood-transfusion and went under surgery. After that, she was brought to the public hospital in Nasiriya, a hospital with only a few doctors and nurses... every day, more than 200 wounded people were brought in. Despite the lack of rooms and personnel, Jessica got her own room and two nurses taking care of her 24/7. American media wrote that she was refused any treatment by the Iraqi's... the BBC now says that she was given the best treatment in the entire hospital. "We knew the Americans would come after her", surgeon Mahdi Khafaji told the Washington Post, "we wanted to show them that we, too, are human".
The story about the mistreatment of Jessica was launched by Mohammed Rehaief, an Iraqi lawyer who claimed to have seen it personally. Rehaief said he was in the hospital because his wife Iman worked there as a nurse. There was no Iman working at that hospital...
Rehaief and his family were given asylum in the US, a job at the military industry-lobby, and a HarperCollins book-contract worth 500k.
HarperCollins is owned by Rupert Murdoch, whose Fox News and The New York Post were (partly) responsible for transforming Jessica Lynch into a myth.
Eight days later, Jessica was 'liberated'. Before that happened, Iraqi soldiers had cleared the area surrounding the hospital. The hospital had informed the American two days earlier that they wanted to hand Jessica over to them... A first attempt was even made, but when the ambulance with Jessica in it reached the American check-point, they were shot at...
Why? Task Force 20 was already preparing the 'liberation', and it was meant to be 'spectacular'. Spectacular, it was... We all saw the footage... But was it necessary, too? Not at all...
And Korp... this is not about Jessica... this is about the media ****ing up.... over and over again... this is about the American government lying... over and over again...
But don't worry... soon, Hollywood will release a movie about Jessica's 'liberation'... I wonder if they'll add the 'Based on true facts'... :/
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June 22nd, 2003, 05:07 AM
#12
And I thought the antiwar people were supposed to be the naive ones.
It's always a pain when the truth gets in the way of a nice feel good story/thread.
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June 23rd, 2003, 01:37 AM
#13
So the media lied...I'm not surprised. So the U.S. gov't lied....still not surprised. I'm not naive...the European media was reporting the very same story, weren't they? Yes. They were. I never said the U.S. gov't was perfect, did I? No. Sue me.
So the media can be manipulated by a gov't, still you have not proven a thing. The war was just, and you can't take it.
Information warfare, ever heard of it? Too bad they chose her. Too bad they chose such a subject.
The truth didn't get in the way, powertoad5000. The U.S. gov't did. But keep up the vigilance, you'll make us all proud.
Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it.
- Samuel Johnson
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June 25th, 2003, 10:44 PM
#14
Merde. Should I even post in this pointless discussion. Oh well, what <shocking> revelations, the media (trusted barons of truth) and the some governments (highly regarded by all) have possibly misled the public? Mais non, it cannot be!
Odd how ppl are so surprised by all this.
Trappedagainbyperfectlogic.
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June 26th, 2003, 06:10 AM
#15
To post or not to post, that is the question...
From the beginning, this story was a little far fetched to me. Just a little too easy, a little too convenient. BUT...suddenly we're faced with another story JUST as easy and convenient about what saints the iraqi's were. About how the Americans were SOOOO stupid, they shot at an ambulance. Could have happened, in retrospect, considering the number of civilians they killed "accidentally" at checkpoints. But you can't deny the bodies buried in a mass grave on the hospital grounds. And...just as another little idea...it IS possible that out of fear of retaliation from the Iraqi govt, which I think we will all agree regardless of our position on whether the war was right or wrong was a bit "harsh" on those who opposed them, they just might not be using their real names.
I think if you put the two stories together and sifted out all the BS, you might come up with what really happened. I'm sure it's in there somewhere...once you sift out all the propoganda on both sides.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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June 26th, 2003, 08:13 AM
#16
And to think the FCC removed regulations that kept the newsmedia from monopolizing markets. I'm sure that we'll get unbiased, truthful reporting with that change.
ddddc
"Somehow saying I told you so just doesn't cover it" Will Smith in I, Robot
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June 26th, 2003, 09:36 AM
#17
" And maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be" --Miguel Cervantes
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June 26th, 2003, 03:52 PM
#18
Originally posted here by KorpDeath
So the media lied...I'm not surprised. So the U.S. gov't lied....still not surprised.
Mark this thread folks..we have a conservative admiting bush and his cronies lied. This was the man who would bring dignaty back to the office? I demand impeachemnt now, lieing about events in a war (and risking US lives with that lie) is far worse then lieing about a bj.
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June 27th, 2003, 01:49 AM
#19
BUT...suddenly we're faced with another story JUST as easy and convenient about what saints the iraqi's were.
The whole reason they gave her the best treatment in the hospital was because she was being used as a human shield, that's why all the Iraqi troops were there. It's not like they did it out of the goodness of their hearts.
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June 27th, 2003, 03:33 AM
#20
Originally posted here by bballad
Mark this thread folks..we have a conservative admiting bush and his cronies lied. This was the man who would bring dignaty back to the office? I demand impeachemnt now, lieing about events in a war (and risking US lives with that lie) is far worse then lieing about a bj.
You're so far from correct on two counts... I'm not a conservative, nor do I care much for Bush (as I've already stated). And the president didn't break the story "oh righteous one".
Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it.
- Samuel Johnson
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