Basic *nix question?

[sweet_angel]

Hi guys/girls,

I've been using Solaris version 9 for 4 days and I've been play around with it. And I am totally noob as Solaris user. Ok this is really basic command but I am a bit confused:

$ ls -la /user
drwxr-xr-x          3 root        other        512 jul  10  12.57  .
drwxr-xr-x         26 root        root         512 jul  10  12.57  ..
drwxr-xr-x          5 annya       staff        512 jul  10  12.59

As you can see .. there are "two roots" and permission for root=annya ( annya not in wheel group), so my question is why two roots? and why annya have same permission as root?

And BTW I don't have this command problem on BSD and Linux..

Thanks for your information

Cheerss

annya

[jdenny]

Hi Annya...

drwxrwxrwx
|---   ---
| | --- |
| |  |  --- other
| |  ------ group
| --------- user/owner
----------- see below

first character:
d = directory
l = symbolic link
b = special file
c = character special file
p = fifo (or `named pipe') special file
s = AF_UNIX address family socket
- = ordinary file

permission:
r = read
w = write
x = execute, or change directory if it's a directory

So apparently there is a user named root, a user named annya, a group named root, a group named other, and a group named staff.

drwxr-xr-x 3 root other 512 jul 10 12.57 .
-> for the current directory, user root has rwx permission, group other has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 512 jul 10 12.57 ..
-> for the parent directory, user root has rwx permission, group root has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

drwxr-xr-x 5 annya staff 512 jul 10 12.59 xx
-> for this xx directory, user annya has rwx permission, group staff has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

Gampang kan? Hope this helps.

Peace always,
<jdenny>

[sweet_angel]

Originally posted here by jdenny
Hi Annya...

drwxrwxrwx
|---   ---
| | --- |
| |  |  --- other
| |  ------ group
| --------- user/owner
----------- see below

first character:
d = directory
l = symbolic link
b = special file
c = character special file
p = fifo (or `named pipe') special file
s = AF_UNIX address family socket
- = ordinary file

permission:
r = read
w = write
x = execute, or change directory if it's a directory

So apparently there is a user named root, a user named annya, a group named root, a group named other, and a group named staff.

drwxr-xr-x 3 root other 512 jul 10 12.57 .
-> for the current directory, user root has rwx permission, group other has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 512 jul 10 12.57 ..
-> for the parent directory, user root has rwx permission, group root has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

drwxr-xr-x 5 annya staff 512 jul 10 12.59 xx
-> for this xx directory, user annya has rwx permission, group staff has rx permission, any other users/groups have rx permission

Gampang kan? Hope this helps.

Peace always,
<jdenny>

OK, but why annya have same permission as root?? (annya not in wheel group)

Thanks denny you remind me of my Granny she is from Bali

[slarty]

No, annya doesn't have the same permission as root.

The two root-owned directories in /user are "." and ".."

"." is the current directory, hence points at /user
".." is the parent directory, hence points at / (the root directory of the system).

These directories are expected to be owned by root.

If you don't want to be confused in this manner, try ls -l instead of ls -la

ls -la shows "hidden" files (ones which start with a dot). This includes the normally hidden "." and ".."

Although it's useful to know there there, we don't normally care about having them in directory listings.

[sweet_angel]

Originally posted here by slarty
No, annya doesn't have the same permission as root.

The two root-owned directories in /user are "." and ".."

"." is the current directory, hence points at /user
".." is the parent directory, hence points at / (the root directory of the system).

These directories are expected to be owned by root.

If you don't want to be confused in this manner, try ls -l instead of ls -la

ls -la shows "hidden" files (ones which start with a dot). This includes the normally hidden "." and ".."

Although it's useful to know there there, we don't normally care about having them in directory listings.

Thanks slarty that's make sense..

$ ls -l1 /users
drwxr-xr-x      5 annya  staff    51 jul 10 16.46  annya

but I tried to use different user (annya1) and this time I put in wheel group and still have same permission, or maybe I did something wrong here:

$ ls -l1 /users
drwxr-xr-x    5 annya1  staff    51 jul 10 16.59  annya

I think something went wrong here ( I might made mistake)..I am very sure I checked 3 times when I use "admintool" on solaris to add username ,which one wheel and which one not...
Thanks guys and I am still play around with it..

cheerrs