Jupiter Media Screws AntiOnline Founder

[alittlebitnumb]

For anyone who is confused by "intmons" post in this thread and missed the brief spamming by "him" The "gold dot" account intmon used got 0wn3d last night. The front page had 25-30 postings on it asking silly questions and such.

Take a closer look: http://www.antionline.com/member.php...&userid=157824

As you can see, Intmon was not owned at all. The person banned was named "Intmon" and the admin is named "intmon.": http://www.antionline.com/member.php...&userid=136211

I am assuming thats why jupman has greens instead of a gold dot.

Heh, he was given lots of greenies because he was banned the first day he joined, and that made sure he's not banned again.

The troubles are sad , but hell i love to see a corporation get roasted.

Awww, now that's not nice Let's all wish them the best, shall we?

[debwalin]

Originally posted here by bballad
Just a note...the worst agitators in this thread are people who signed up in 2001, who havent posted anything in a loong time...hell the yhaven't been here in a long time...my guess, RL friends of JP who he brought back with him in this attempt to poision the well on AO. For those of us who are new here read the attrtion.org info about JP before you rush in to support him, from what I can tell the number of blackhats and script kiddies has drop after he left.

Just out of curiosity, to whom would you be referring here? I went back and looked at every post in this thread...there was 1 and perhaps 2 names I didn't recognize who were members in 2001, and they made up a total of 3-4 posts in this thread.

And maybe you better check out the owners of attrition a little bit before you start referencing them as good sources of information. That street runs two ways.

[jaguar291]

I'm just curious JupMan... if the traffic hasn't gone done and everything is going good... why won't you pay JP his money as he claims?

Next, I want to make it clear, that I believe this site has slowly gone down-hill since Jup took over... features were taken away (and if you say getting rid IRC or having less forums on the front page was based on a majority of user opinions, you're full of ****), members have left, and no one from Jup is active in the community, making it impossible to improve this site...

Finally, I will no longer involve myself in this... I don't know the facts of the case nor do I truly care. I also recommend that AO members do the same... ignore this thread until something final comes out of it... because we don't know what really happened and for now we sound like complete idiots trying to accuse people of actions that we don't know about...

= Cheers, jag291 =

[souleman]

The number of blackhats hasn't really changed... The few that are here that actually know their **** are also smart enough not to go around talking **** about being uber-leet haxorz and **** like that... (and yes, there are a few members here that have made quite an impression on the underground hacker scene) As for script kiddies... that number has increased. Not only gone up, but now they are making more posts and becoming "senior members" and "addicts" The total traffic has remained about the same bacause a lot of the older members have left, and they are being replaced by crops of script kiddiez. My post count has gone from 15 a day to about 1 every 3 to 5 days. So if the average person posts 5 times in a day (just an estimate) that means that it took about 3 people to replace the traffic that I was causing.

As for documentation, I can believe there isn't a lot. This site has been modified quite a bit from the original state. But grab 2 or 3 people that know php/mySQL, and you can figure out anything you want to do. Its really not that hard to go through a few files and firgure out what the final result is. Especially considering it is based on a well documented system. Just go through and look for the changes. (anyone remember the diff command?)

As for the DOS attacks mentioned by rcgreen.. are you talking about the IRC server? I will admit that the site did go down a few times from that, but it wasn't really that much. And you make a good point... if JP's "old school enemies" have to rely on useing a DOS attack, it really makes you wonder if they know what they are doing.

lumpyporridge> where the hell do you get your information? Was that a recruiting tool for some aliance.... "Hey look we hacked intmon's account, join us and we will help you, otherwise we will hack you and ban you" and in case your wondering why I bring up aliances again... oh wait from what I have heard, they are now called "groups" sorry.

albn> omg really, someone banned jupman...no one ever told me

now, in their defence... if the list that was "found" by a couple members a while back really was what it appeard to be, then that would explain a good portion of it. And there were rummors about traffic generators and other various things to showo highter stats. Now I am NOT trying to say that any of that is true. I have never seen any proof of it at all.

Oh yeah.. and one other thing. . WHAT THE HELL ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ASSIGNING ANTIPOINTS IN THIS THREAD FOR?????? This has to be the biggest waste of "greenies" I have ever seen. Common people... you wonder why the AP system is such crap??? Its because you waste your time assigning postive ap's to BS posts in threads like this, but don't do a damn thing for the people that are actually making posts to help other users.

[rcgreen]

that I believe this site has slowly gone down-hill since Jup took over

This has got to be one of the most common statements I've seen, but the point is
that people have been saying it for the entire time I've been here! It couldn't
have been getting worse all that time. There were some incredibly annoying users
around back then, and silly flame wars, retarded questions on "how do I hack
my girlfriend's hotmail?"

Things haven't changed all that much. There is good and bad, both then and now.
As for traffic, I think each member goes through a cycle. You join, lurk a while, and you
get involved. You go through a period of intense activity, and then slack off.
Maybe later you bring your activity level up again. Don't mistake your own personal
changes as changes in this site, or the world at large. It is still spinning on its axis.

[alittlebitnumb]

albn> omg really, someone banned jupman...no one ever told me

Now you know

oh wait from what I have heard, they are now called "groups" sorry.

No, they are called greenie groupies now. A little bird told me.

[bluebeard96]

Originally posted here by jaguar291
... (and if you say getting rid IRC or having less forums on the front page was based on a majority of user opinions, you're full of ****)
= Cheers, jag291 =

Well, I don't know about IRC, but I know there were lengthy discussions about restricting non-technical forums from the main page and to my recollection, the majority, including myself, WERE in favor of doing such. I still think it is a good idea, even if it does lower traffic and banner impressions. What is unfortunate, however, is that logs were not verified prior to the sale. I would think that in those months of negotiation that JM would have verified the logs and that JP would have his $ at the time of sale. So while the intent of removing forums from the main page was clear, it's unforseen ramifications towards JP are regrettable. Maybe this unfortunately will all be chalked up to experience.

But yes, we did choose to narrow the main page and that was one of the FEW (in my observations) recommendations that JM has acted on.

[hjack]

O Jesus Christ, will someone just close this damn thread and let it drop!?! Like it or not, JupMedia is now the owner of AO. Many of you have tried to speak with members of JupMedia and have failed several times. Accept it. There not willing to put to much into AO. Accept it. The situation, however it goes, is not really any of our buisness. I would like to think we should all support JP nad leave AO never to come back but truthfully, none of us know the details. Accept it. Just make the best out of what the community is now and understand AO has and will under go many changes. Take advantage of what is available.



hjack

[MemorY]

i am happy that the forums are still up .... at least they didnt close them lol ... i will stay with AO till the end .... i am a member since Aug .2001 with a bebiboyx1 account and have read a LOT .... i will leave if they close the AP system or the Forums ... i mean we can control part of AO ...if a Script Kiddie comes WE ban him/her .... and we decide what to post in the forums and there are still old AO members (moderator and admins) who care about the site and help us keep it clean and focused on Security .... as long as we can share our ideas, news, and knowledge in the forums its all good ...if the site becomes to *****ed up we can leave and join another Security related website and make it our new homepage and visit it after we come home from work or school or (at work,in school ) .... nobody is obligated to stay here ...feel free to leave....when i get bored and do not feel welcome anymore i sure will leave .... and by the way i just wanna thank all of you guys for everything .....

[VictorKaum]

Originally posted here by xmaddness

I bid you, and this community... a farewell..... I'm out......

TO Everyone else (except JupMedia) : Its been fun while it lasted. I've had some great times here and have learned much from the community. I have also taught much in the community. I have seen this community at its peak, and at its low several times before. But this is it. I'm gone... To all my friends and commrades, you can still find me if you know where to look. I look forward to meeting with you all again, under better circumstances.

*xmaddness erases this site from his memory never to return again....

That's a bit harsh
xmadness it was nice knowing you.
I have to admit that in almost 2 years forum activity it's the first time that I'm so desinterested in AO. Something changed... blame jupm? read rcgreen's and souleman's post.

This is not something to be discussed in here (like negative already said). The post from jupman gives an idea what's going on but we do not have an objective point of view. So this is my first and last post on this topic.