Artificial Inteligence

[x acidreign x]

I think the complexity of the human mind is not in it's sheer speed, but in the fact that a computer microprocessors handle only two possible bit positions, 1s and 0s. The human brain handles almost an infinite number of different degrees with the same ease. Its like writing a number in binary then writing it in base 16, the number 13 in binary is 1101, in base 16 its D. 1 bit place vs 4. HMMM which is faster to work with?

[Wrayth]

When you make a choice, you are providing input to your pattern clusters, and the dominant resulting pattern cluster defines your response. Choice is an illusion... all we are is the sum of our experiences :P

As for your mpeg file, you'd find the compression system is a little different... at best you have a very broken collection of images with a lot of loss that is filled in by associated patterns. Even if you have a photographic memory, there is diffusion and detail loss... it's not stored as a direct representation, but as pattern reinforcements. As for storage space, there are disk systems currently being worked on that can hold terabytes of info on a piece of orange plastic about the size of a credit card.

[x acidreign x]

Mark: First of all, what do you mean a computer can't make choices without being self aware. computers make choices every day! That is a common programming practice. computers read a document's format and choose what program to run it in, game AI chooses to make a certain move based on the player's actions. I know you may say, that computers make those choices based on programming, well so do humans! Neo chose trinity because he loved her too much to let her die. the architect even told him that the one was "by design" based on a contingent affirmation, creating a profound attachment to the rest of the species and neo's was far more specific, vis a vis, love.

[mark_boyle2002]

"Being Worked on" is the operative term. They are also working on ways to save a gig in a cup of water and turn lead into gold.

Face it "Resistance is futile" I am correct.

Its not the choice anyway. Its the ability to decide and be spontaneous. e.g

babybillybuggerbumpers.

[Wrayth]

LOL

Computers can be random. There are assorted methods for getting a random response... that's what spontenaity is, really. They aren't AI's yet... it's all a level of processing ability and speed. That's all the Turing test really measures. Is the subject able to process at the speed of the examiner?
As for worked on, I've seen footage of working prototypes and an explanation of the theory... essentially it uses polarised light to inscribe information at different angles on the disc. The biggest hurdle at the moment is the cost, but that's the hurdle on all new advances... also, this was about 5 years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is even further now.

Don't forget thumb drives, as a commercial example... we can put 3 Gb of info into a thing the size of my thumb. Now picture an efficient one the size of my brain... how much storage could it have?

[x acidreign x]

You hand a baby a revolver and he'll gleefully play with it untill he blows his head off, you hand the same revolver to a 25 year old, and he will handle it with care and possibly even fear it. not because he's human, so was the baby, because he has been programmed by his parents, society, and personal experience that guns can be dangerous

Humans are pretty much computers themselves, only with terrific input/output devices and a hell of a BIOS version. We absorb every peice of information that floats our way and incorporate it into our programming instantly. I fully believe we can create artificial intelligence if we just provide a computer with a means to assimilate information and programming to allow it to incorporate said information into it's programming.

[mark_boyle2002]

Is it true that some old perverts get arrested for flashing their bios at youngsters ?

Anyway. back to what I'm on about. Its decision making that is the key here. If you give a computer a million variables it can't make a decision based on the merit of the variables and I can. Hence tonight I'm going to the pub because this forum is screwing with my brain

[hot_guy]

i guess the language is not going to make much difference.
what matters is the features that the language is offering. any c based language should prove good. it is the algorithm that results in optimum performance.

go for any language that offers pretty good realtime control.

[x acidreign x]

Originally posted here by mark_boyle2002
Is it true that some old perverts get arrested for flashing their bios at youngsters ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Oh MAN that is funny.

Anyway. back to what I'm on about. Its decision making that is the key here. If you give a computer a million variables it can't make a decision based on the merit of the variables and I can. Hence tonight I'm going to the pub because this forum is screwing with my brain

A computer can base a decision on the merit of variables, that is all that a computer can base decisions on, what a computer cannot do is let emotions interfere, then again a computer can be programmed to determine when a certain emotion is appropriate and act accoringly, based on psychological norms, so I suppose a computer CAN let emotions get in the way.(if adequately patched of course)

[mark_boyle2002]

No, Emotions, Senses, Chaos Theory, Random, Awkwardness. being a *****.

Sometimes there is just no rationall answer for things we do where as the computer must be preprogrammed by some one. It can't just preprogram its self into I'm drunk and I want to smack my bitch up mode now can it.

If someone ever mastered all this I would thouroughly envy them but I would envy the hacker/cracker who gave it the cold more.