Well as the debate rages I understand Teds point from the fact that and I'm not dissing anyone here he speaks from the trenches of an actual work enviroment, and that many tech workers do not understand. Ya got it Covad, Comcast, ATT etc are all infected with a worm on systems sold out of the box and subscribe to services by the above that make no mention nor provide a simple out of the box as you buy the service firewall, from either M$ or ISP yet day to day the "NOISE" of script kiddies and auto worms grow. Me I watch the logs and filter out the latest worm put in my 8 hours and have a life outside the server room. Tweak away I'll only see the tweaks those I'll watch, where the worm grows hell today on my home system 600 hits today think I'll bother to take notice other then another unsual spike. Oops did not make sense again LOL..Simple firewall takes care of it if it's blocked why sweat it...hope they did not deface the ProzacPez page