How to ignore the proxy server

[phishphreek]

MsMittens: Thanks for your feedback. Guess I've been taking it for granted... All the schools that i've been to, don't really care what you do. Now, they don't let you install programs on PCs, or use p2p networks... but you can still download stuff if you really wanted to. They still allow IRC and DCC... The school I'm currently attending... is run by the state. Guess they really don't care? http://www.dtcc.edu/ It is a non profit school... if there is such a thing. We have teachers from the University of Delaware though... so we still get a great education, but at 1/3rd the price. http://www.udel.edu/

[Pclinuxguru]

There is an easier safe way to do it if it isn't too late.

I didn't realize you lived in Syria. Get a job at the ISP. I am quite sure their admins don't block themeselves.

[Zetaphor]

Well, I have tryed the method above, the forced proxy server. I got a list of servers from google, and every one I tried did'nt work. I narrowed my search to servers in the US and on port 80, because they won't disable the http port. It goes to find the server, and then I just get the can not find server error page. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

[TheRepublican]

phishphreek80 said:

Most people your age are not mature enough to handle unfiltered web

I know what you mean. Most of the guys at my school are total lusers (excluding clintonsucks, of course ). Until recently the school had a program that stopped kids from messing around with the computers there called fortress. This year they don't have it on any of the computers, and already kids are messing around with the computers, thinking they're real cool since they can change the desktop picture. Now every time I go on their computers the title bars of all the windows are in size 72 font, the mouse is in left-handed mode, and the desktop is set to some really idiotic picture. Now of course the librarians are totally baffled by this and I have to use my time to fix my computer so that I can at least see the web page I'm visiting. I'm even thinking of writing my own program to restrict the settings on their computers!

But, back on topic, it wouldn't be so annoying if at least the stupid thing worked right, but it just says everything is porn and doesn't let me get through. It's quite annoying for when you want to download that huge compiler but instead see a message on how youngsters shouldn't look at porn

Edit - Just some spelling (sorry, I'm a perfectionist)

[nihil]

Hi TheRepublican,

I do feel sympathetic, as I suspect that you are probably a lot more socially mature than your peers. However, you will always find that you will be judged by the average or "lowest common denominator" of your set.

I guess that all schools are underfunded and underesourced, so they have to set policies to suit their budgets? At the moment, it appears that they have taken a "boys will be boys" attitude; I cannot say that I agree with them, as I would expect that the tidying up efforts must take a lot of resource. On the other hand, people (particularly "lusers") should learn some of the basics, as you will have to work with them later on in life

I can understand your frustration regarding the apparent under-utilisation of resources, but how can you be sure that is the case without seeing the service contract that your school has?

For example, I have a modest DSL connection..............I am restricted to 1Gb per 24 hours bandwidth. Now, say your school has 100Gb....you want a 150Mb file, then a 200Mb file, your pal wants a 400Mb file and so on .............. it is easy to see how over a half of your school's bandwidth could be eaten up before lessons even start.

A sysadmin's task is not an easy one........too little resource....you are to blame, too much resource...you are to blame............ at the end of the day it all comes down to $$$$$$$

I am purely speculating here, as I have no idea of your environment, but if I were in authority in your school, I would look to set up an area with a few "donated" ex-corporate boxes, and let the less aware persons go and play on them. They would probably benefit, because it would take away some of their inhibitions, and they would not disrupt proper activities.

I WOULD NOT HAVE THIS AREA CONNECTED TO THE REAL NETWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a few thoughts, I thought you made an educated, polite response (is this AO?)

Good Luck

EDIT: I think your sysadmins are playing a bit of psychological warfare here.........instead of saying "prOn site" the message should read:

"The school have determined that the site you wish to visit is not in your educational interests or that of the school"

[TheRepublican]

Yeah, you're probably right, but the thing is my school district has never been big on saving money. Right now they are paying 119.5 million dollars on remodelling their schools, and still all my teachers are complaining about the supposed "paper shortage". Kinda gives you an idea of where there priorities lay...

As for what my school's plan is, it is true that I do not know. But, I have downloaded a lot of stuff there, although it is all microsoft crap (good thing is they let that through ), and no one has ever told me that I am using up too much bandwidth. I know that they have a T1 line from my talks with the computers teacher there. So, without more information (i.e. talking to the admin, who has been known to go for a month without answering requests, even from a teacher!) I am led to the conclusion that they like wasting resources.

Also, the library computers that we have do appear to be donated boxes, but they did connect then to the LAN which was a stupid mistake because now a student can reformat a network drive and get everyone kicked off school computers.

BTW: I was joking about that message. Really it just spits out a generic "you are not permitted to access this site because it is pornography" message

[nihil]

Hi, TheRepublican ,

I did understand that the prOn message was a "generic defect" (hey do you like that pun )

There should not be a reason for the library computers to connect to the school network, other than through a secure link that the librarian has?

They are heading for "interesting times" as the Chinese proverb goes....?

BTW if you use the expression "prOn", everyone gets the message, and it does not get picked up by sleazy search engines

With that amount going ($$$$ you mentioned) I think you should post a job application form under "general chit chat.

If you have a legitimate request at school, I would suggest that the "proper channels" are to talk to your teacher first, and explain what you want to do, the volumes of data involved, why you need to do it, and all that. It is up to your teacher to take that up with the Administration?

You must learn patience grasshopper.......although I guess that TV series was way before your time (Kung Fu...David Carradine???)

Good Luck

[TheRepublican]

They sure are heading for interesting times...
I'll try to remember that prOn thing, this is the first forum site I've been on and I don't know all the lingo...
Yeah, patience has never been one of my strong suits...

Thanks for the advice, nihil