Holy Phreakers - Electronic Warfare

[listener]

Thank you each for your posts, especially Nokia, for your first post. I'm quite certain that what is happening has nothing to do with my cell phone, which is brand new. I've not put that number out on the Net and there is no way the perp can know about it at this point, at least I don't think so.

catch: no, I haven't received any spam advertising a keychain device as you describe. Would like to hear more about that.

Is it possible there is no bug, that this weapon is even more far out that that? How can it be that that being online (via dialup) stopped all phone sounds but having no land line whatsoever now does not?

[Nokia]

I shouldnt worry too much about "far out weapons" dood, they do exist but unless you planning to kill the president or something I shouldnt think anyone would be using them on you, they are just too expensive and require very skilled tradesmen to install, use and recover them.

You've told me you live in a dorm, so you will proberbly find that you are the victim of a practcal joke of some kind.

As far as I can work it out, you are hearing a muffled ring tone when you are tying to sleep?

Maybe someone else has hid their mobile in your dorm, or something along them lines, it could be a baby monitor, walkie talkie, or a tape recording.

If I was you I would wait until you hear it again and then rip your room apart in the place you think the noise came from, you will proberbly find your culprit!

Unless you are involved in something highly illegal I wouldnt worry too much dood.

[Und3ertak3r]

Nokia, just a note about "bugs" .. the cheepies are as you say in the FM broadcast band..88-108Mhz.. the semi pro and pros can be anywhere and now use psk digital techniques.. I wont go into to much here..

Your methodology in checking is correct..

Sad to say, this morning I was awakened by the familiar one "ring," a short burst of sound about one-quarter to one-third the volume of a regular ring

I don't know of bugs making noises.. either you had a bad dream.. or some clown has a remote controle noise making device that just happens to make sounds like a ringing phone

you may even have a funny accoustic problem in the building you are in.. ie the sound could have been 2 floors up or down from you, sewerage pipes are great for the conduction of sounds..

just a few thoughts

cheers

Edit: BTW..I am stsrting to coome to grips with the fact that the majority of computer ppl (note not plain old Users) have little or no basic electronic knowledge.. if you encounter a problem ellimination of possabilities is easier with a reasonable knowledge.. but be careful that you don't close off possabilities because of that knowledge..

like did you know that 10 years ago experiments with point source sound were being conducted.. that is where you could make sound seem to be coming from a spot in a room or outside a room but not from a physical object.. this used ultrasonic audio "beams" .. not sure of the exact ref,, but that was science mag about 93/94

[Nokia]

I know but i cant see and pro's or even semi pros trying to wake him up by making a ringing noise.

As i said, prob just a practical joke at his expense, who's going to spend £100+ just to wake someone up?

Prob just a cheap thing !

[MrLinus]

A stalker.

A person who is unstable and wants "revenge".

I've met people like this. They do exist and they are scary. They become obsessed with a single person and go all out. Personally, if it were me, I'd be freaked out. I'd also look into a restraining order (might require a bit of work on your part to find out their last name perhaps).

[Und3ertak3r]

I don't know of bugs making noises.. either you had a bad dream.. or some clown has a remote controle noise making device that just happens to make sounds like a ringing phone

you may even have a funny accoustic problem in the building you are in.. ie the sound could have been 2 floors up or down from you, sewerage pipes are great for the conduction of sounds..

hey nokia.. I wasn't saying you were wrong.. just adding to what you said.. please take in context whith the rest of the text..please..hmm that is before the EDIT that is..
I agree .. my first thought is something other than the practical joke, then it would be soem thing bloody cheep if it was a joke.. But if it is some demented mind.. goodness knows what they would spend..

cheers

[listener]

Ms. Mittens is right. I met this person years ago in a park. It is an obsession that has grown to monstrous proportions. In the beginning, based on what she told me, I think she had help from a cop friend who showed her how to get an unlisted phone number - this was in the 1980s. Later, she graduated to the phone company - I'm fairly certain she has insider help from someone in AT&T - won't go into that here.

I do not live in a dorm but in an apartment in a free standing dwelling. No one else has my door key other than the landlady. It's possible that someone picked the lock to gain entry to plant a bug, but I have no evidence of that, which is why I consider a bug to be an unlikely suspect although it easily comes to mind.

There is no legal remedy because I never knew her last name, her address, and I discarded her phone no. years ago. If I could open the phone record of incoming calls, going back a number of years, I could get her real number before she learned how to mask it. Because of the way the law is written, that cannot be done. That's what I've been told by legal counsel and my local police precinct.

[MrLinus]

Something just occurred to me: is whoever (assuming it's her) still calling on the cell phone? What about *69 that allows you to get the caller's number? Wouldn't you a) be able to then trace her and b) get the phone company to block any further calls from this person due to harassment?

<edit> More occurring thoughts: if she does have access to you via the phone company, then it's likely she has access to your credit report and such. You really do need to get her last name. Perhaps you should consider (no snickering) a hyponotist to get the phone number from before and get a private investigator to help you track her down</edit>

[lekt0r]

What about *69 that allows you to get the caller's number?

most local phone companies offer a small fee based service to mark your number as private making it almost impossible for *69 to work. You can however counter this by placing your number on a service as well where the caller has to unblock their number in order to reach you. (*82). There are additional LASS codes that may offer assistance as well. You can usually call your phone company and they will tell you what LASS they provide. Hope this helps.

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[PM8228]

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