yeah I can see why the ISP would do it, personally as a windows user I'd still not be happy about having my setup fiddled around with - but then maybe I'm just over protective of my babies (not all of which run Windows). I can see why a lot of home users are quite happy for the service to be turned off for them, but like I say... lazy users

I don't think its totally fair to blame MS though - they were after all trying to include something that would be helpful to a network admin - it would have been better if the messenger service was turned off by default mind, can't argue with you on that.

Can you tell I'm being charitable tonight???

Z