You misunderstand me my clients are NOT interested in security my client base is home user's. Unfrtunately I somehow wound up in retail. Still it is something to be noted Home User PC's are on the rise and have a higher .. dunno the right word ... but I guess market share would suffice than any other group. Apologize for fiddling with the way things work here still blundering my way about trying to grasp the basics of the site navigation and protocols for ranting about linux... I dunno why. I hate windows as much as the next man... but I have a thing against senseless MS bashing