AP's

[pwaring]

Originally posted here by Negative
Here is a summary of how mnstrgrl feels about this:

The post count is related to each userid, and is not produced by counting the user's posts every time it needs to be displayed. Excluding forums from post counts would require some hacking of the thread/reply saving code.

I would imagine that the reason for that is purely down to speed concerns, because generating the post count dynamically would require a fairly intensive database query, which would have to be performed around ten times on each view of a page of a thread. Not good!

Also, I don't think you can do this, unless you do it retro-actively. This requires a re-calculation of all users' post counts, and all users' antipoints.

That wouldn't actually be too difficult. Take the site offline for a couple of hours, then loop through the posts and set the user's post count to the sum (using the SUM() function in MySQL, if that's the DB server that's in use) of all the posts matching the user ID where the forum_id isn't equal to GCC (say 5), tech humour etc. Same for antipoints. It would require a lot of database activity, but once it was done it'd be done.

[gore]

In brighter news, I just got the new Rancid CD Indestructable. And I also got the new NOFX CD - War on Errorism.

So far I'm listening to the new NOFX CD first. It has some of their videos and views on politics added in. I highly recommend this CD ALOT.

PWARING, Confirmed Kill, Negative, KorpDeth, I recommend you guys listen to this CD. It's very our style.

Sample of lyrics:

Song: The Separation of Church and Skate. CD: NOFX - War on Errorism:

"I want conflict I want dissent,
I want the scene to represent,
Our hatred of authority, Our fight against complaceny,
Stop singing songs about girls and love,
You killed the owl, you freed the dove,
Confrontation and politics replaced with harmonies and shticks,
When did punk rock become so tame?
These ****ing bands all sound the same,
We want our fights we want our thugs,
We want our burns, We want our drugs,
Where is the violent apathy? These ****in' records are rated G"

That's a small sample of the lyrics. They rock. I already love this album.

[MemorY]

Or they(mods, and admins.) can just tell people that they are watching every AP thats been given out. But lying to us ? hmmmm

This post will self-destruct in 5 second. (it's evidence)

[Negative]

Originally posted by MemorY
Or they(mods, and admins.) can just tell people that they are watching every AP thats been given out. But lying to us ? hmmmm

This post will self-destruct in 5 second. (it's evidence)

It's been up for more than 5 seconds, but anyways...
Mods can not see AntiPoints-assignments, and none of us have ever made that claim as far as I know. Did one of the mods tell you they could, MemorY?
And I have no idea what the "lying" part is about.

[Striek]

That wouldn't actually be too difficult. Take the site offline for a couple of hours, then loop through the posts and set the user's post count to the sum (using the SUM() function in MySQL, if that's the DB server that's in use) of all the posts matching the user ID where the forum_id isn't equal to GCC (say 5), tech humour etc. Same for antipoints. It would require a lot of database activity, but once it was done it'd be done.

Let's be reasonable here; how much advertising revenue would be lost by taking the site offline for 2 hours? And how much would be gained by recounting everyone's posts? That's certainly not a business decision I would make, and I wouldn't expect JupM to do it either. This site's primary purpose as of early this year is to make money, and recounting posts would not generate enough revenue by increasing the post quality to justify the cost.

As for making the post count retroactive, I don't think this is necessary. Just stop counting posts in specific forums. It might not eliminate problems already here, but it would stop a lot of new ones from popping up. As for hacking the code a little, this board is already hacked up more than a Charles Manson victim. What difference would it make? It would take time, yes, but I think it would increase the quality of the posts in the remaining forums enough to justify it. It would also require the creation of new forums for "Other Computer Related Problems" or "General Problems" or something along those lines to remove the security and/or general problem requests from GCC. That way GCC could become much more of a lounge area. We need to look at the type of posting in this forum and determine the best new forums to create. This I think would place more security threads on the main page by keeping them out of GCC, and greatly improve the overall post quality on this board.

[pwaring]

Originally posted here by Striek

Let's be reasonable here; how much advertising revenue would be lost by taking the site offline for 2 hours? And how much would be gained by recounting everyone's posts? That's certainly not a business decision I would make, and I wouldn't expect JupM to do it either. This site's primary purpose as of early this year is to make money, and recounting posts would not generate enough revenue by increasing the post quality to justify the cost.

Well, just setup a cron job to do it every night then. I'm sure there's some kind of 'post resync' option in vBulletin (I know there is in phpBB) so why not just hack that to do the same job? Or just resync a user's posts each time they login, or every 5th time, or whatever.

Although in a way I'm not too happy about the suggestion of eliminating posts from GCC, since a lot of them are very useful, if not security-related. I think we should just stick with APs and forget about post counts, because you don't really get a benefit from having 1000 posts anyway (except after 275 posts you get Addicts access).

[Juridian]

While it's nice to give the developers suggestions on the steps to take to make the changes you'd like, you are assuming far more about the system than you really should. While it would seem that the changes wouldn't be incredibly difficult or time consuming you do not know if the system was architected properly, documented properly, what their uptime has to be, or the process required to actually develop what you want and push it out (management sign off, code developed, tested, etc, etc, etc). Just keep these things in mind when you are feeling frustrated about why something that sounds incredibly easy isn't getting done right away...

[MemorY]

I just said you could tell us that you watch every AP assigment, so people would calm down a bit.