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January 23rd, 2004, 10:00 AM
#11
Kazaa Lite includes "IP Blocker" that you can update so it makes you "safe", and do'nt includes any adds or spywares.
You should take a look at Peer Guardian. It blocks all the bad IPs, and its updated more frequently.
http://www.peerguardian.net/
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January 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
#12
ipblocker, peer guardian, none of that matters if you turn off sharing.
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January 23rd, 2004, 06:52 PM
#13
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ipblocker, peer guardian, none of that matters if you turn off sharing.
Firstly, you also need to turn off the 'function as a supernode'.
Also, simply turning file sharing off isn't good enough, you must also verify it stays off as there are multiple ways for it to get turned on without you doing so. For example - duster.b virus would automatically turn it on if you became infected.
Just as quick fyi,
RRP
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January 23rd, 2004, 07:06 PM
#14
I've never, in my entire life, seen Kazaa lite ++ settings change without me manually doing it. Do you have any documentation, linkage, or recreatable situations for us to verify? Color me curious.
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January 23rd, 2004, 07:56 PM
#15
I've never, in my entire life, seen Kazaa lite ++ settings change without me manually doing it.
I guess that means it couldn't happen. I'm sorry, life just does not often work in absolutes.
One of the first versions of kazaa lite I ever downloaded was, shall we say, enhanced in undesirable ways? The only reason I noticed was because settings were changing without me pushing the buttons.
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:02 PM
#16
groove, you seem to have missed the rest of my sentance. The first statement was a fact, the rest was me asking him if he had documentation I could read so I could understand where he came from, and if in fact is was plausible. No need to be sarcastic with me If he can offer evidence and recreate the situations thats perfectly fine, but if not, then we have to leave that up to user error (ie. allowing a virus on your box in the first place) and not a kazaa setting.
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:20 PM
#17
Actually, the second sentence had really nothing to do with my response, therefore I didn't comment on it.
Your quote "I've never, in my entire life, seen Kazaa lite ++ settings change without me manually doing it' insinuates that it can't happen. You reinforce that opinion with this quote from your next post : " then we have to leave that up to user error and not a kazaa setting."
Am I still following you? All I am trying to say is that it can indeed happen, especially if your version of whatever application you care to use has been altered in some way to, for example, use your box as a proxy.
Another example, just for fun. A lot of people are fond of saying sarcastically, "I'll do what you want when 1000 screaming monkeys come flying out of my butt." We take it to mean that since it will never happen, I'll never have to do what you want. Sounds pretty absolute. Never say never though.
My niece calls her flatulence "screaming monkeys." I don't know where she learned that, probably her dad. Point is, that although she is only seven years old, I'd wager that by now at least 1000 screaming monkeys have indeed passed out her digestive tract.
Can I recreate the situation where Kazaa settings changed? No, because I would be silly to put that same version back on my computer (if I could even find it again) . It could, I suppose, be construed as user error (although that would be stretching it), I really should have known better. But I didn't.
User error is only one among a number of variables that can affect software operation. My point was merely that there are few instances in life where things are a "sure bet"
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:27 PM
#18
pooh>
- Through KaZaA Duster.B looks for the default shared folder of this file sharing program. If this folder is not shared, it modifies an entry in the Windows Registry in order to share it. Then, it infects all the PE files it finds in the shared folder by adding its code to the beginning of them. When other users access these files remotely, they will download the files infected by Duster.B, thinking that they are useful computer programs, images, etc. However, when they run the downloaded file, their computers will also be infected by Duster.B.
found... many places with a google search on duster.b and kazaa
\"Ignorance is bliss....
but only for your enemy\"
-- souleman
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:28 PM
#19
I am basing this off of my experience, the experience of others(including my wife), and the stories of the people who have problems. Kazaa lite has always been a decent program without spyware or build in proxy ports. IF you downloaded one that did, then it was not the actual Kazaa lite, and thus user error. If you let a virus get on your computer and it modified Kazaa, that is user error. I am insuniating that in all my years of using Kazaa lite (++) I've never had one person complain to me that it did such thing without it being something they did that was dumb, and in no way related to origonal operation of Kazaa.
I am also not saying that it can not happen, but have never seen it happen to anyone I know that uses it, or from software review posts across the web. Thus why I said "Seen" in my post. If it is recreatable, with the actuall Kazaa Lite Software (and not user error, downloading a non official, bugged version), then I will more than happily agree that Kazaa settings may in fact be able to be changed.
But until I see documentation, links, and reports, his statements are nothing more than statements. And don't try to say a Virus can do it, because if someone is user error prone enough to allow one on their system, they shouldn't be using kazaa in the first place.
EDIT: I can see how this post might come off as "holier than thou" or snotty, but know that I don't mean it to be. I am honestly asking for documentation of cases (not virus related) in which Kazaa lite suddenly changes settings. I honestly want to know. The reason why I won't listen to virus reports is because the origonal argument of "You should always check in case a virus changes it" would apply to every single bit of software in existance, and is a no-brainer. You can not preassume a virus is going to be running all of the time and thus settings are going to be changed. In his origonal statement, it would be like saying "Yes, you can set it, but you should ALWAYS double check your outlook,msn,aim,mozilla,firebird,windows,xmms,winamp,etc etc settings before using them. Let's draw the line over user error
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January 23rd, 2004, 09:37 PM
#20
i dont know if you noticed but the link for more information:
http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/5UP0L2K55W.html
was written in 2001
As jenjen illustrated, those that know what their doing can always get what they want. those that only know how to use a GUI p2p app are making it miserable for everyone else, hogging bandwidth and causing more government involvement in the internet
Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”
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