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    I agree with you, but let's think 2006 (Longhorn release date). 256 RAM will be a think of the past and I would almost bet 512 will be the norm. Of course, just assumptions, but according to the progression so far (and looking at the events when XP was released) things tend to go hand in hand and meet each other. Whether that is MS influene or not, who knows

    www.blackviper.com

    EDIT: scratch that, for some unknown reason his site is down... for the first time in years. I'll see if I can find a google cache.

    EDIT: found the important google cache paged from his site:

    Quick Read - Service List:
    http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    Long Read - Service List, Explaination, and Results:
    http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    Various other tweaks:
    http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8


    Head there first and follow their XP service configuration tutorial to start you out. It will run you through an entire list of what each XP service does, what it depends on, how much RAM it eats up, and if it is safe to disable or not.

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    Thanks pooh,

    Please do not get me wrong, I am not anti-Microsoft...............I guess I have just about all of their operating systems since DOS 3.0 .............possibly earlier.................I even have Word 1.0 for DOS

    My problem is with "those who hold the purse strings".........2006 is only two years away, and MS have extended support of 9x to 2007................what kind of message is that?

    XP is quite rare in a commercial environment in the UK, even now...................and it is an infrastructure problem IMHO..........

    I have experienced a senior executive suspend a major project in mid flight so he got his annual bonus and promotion..................cost the company at least $900,000 but he got away with it. It's all bottom line driven

    I do not see all that sub-512Mb hardware flushing through in the next two years

    That is the problem as I see it

    Cheers

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    Originally posted here by pooh sun tzu
    Longhorn isn't a corp or server release, it is a desktop OS. I could care less about how corps feel There is a completely different OS for servers, called Windows 2003. And if you want to take down that 256 megs from XP, let me know

    This is not true at all.. Longhorn is both a server and workstation OS. Winxp is the current workstation OS, with Win2k3 being the server OS. Longhorn server will replace Win2k3. Bill Gates just said last week that the desktop OS will ship before the server OS.

    Also, I don't see these new "features" being major drains on the system. There is already DLL caching and monitoring taking place on the OS since Win2k. Monitoring that important OS files are not changed is not a huge resource drain.

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    mohaughn,


    I have to say this, but you may be mistaken I've hand tested all releases of Longhorn and no server features are being included nor discussed in their whitepapers. There is a completely seperate OS codenamed: BlackComb, which will be released as their newest Server Edition. While it includes many of the enhacements of Longhorn, it still is it's own completely seperate distro. This will be as I said, completely seperate and released seperately to the public.. (sources: Winbeta.net microbeta.net) Agreed on the resource configurations. I think they will be just fine on memory usage.



    Blackcomb server sources:

    http://www.zolknetwork.com/windows_blackcomb.php

    http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/longhorn.asp

    At the May 2003 WinHEC 2003 trade show, Microsoft executive David Thompson said that Blackcomb would ship about 2-3 years after Longhorn and would feature new versions of the so-called out-of-band technologies the company is shipping throughout 2003 for Windows Server 2003. These technologies include, among others, the iSCSI initiator in June, NAS 3.0 in Q2 2003, Automated Deployment Services (ADS) in Q3 2003, Small Business Server 2003 in Q3 2003, Virtual Server in Q4 2003, and the AMD/64-bit version of Windows Server 2003, while will be delivered "in Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 by the end of 2003," Thompson said. Whether this information has changed is open to debate: Perhaps Longhorn Server will include some of this technology, given the ever-changing schedule.
    Note that during the conference they also made it clear that Longhorn will come out in multiple versions (ie. home, proffessional, etc) but not server. For now, Blackbomb is better known as "Longhorn Server" even though it is not, because no one can confirm the codename to truthfully be Blackcomb. They can confirm it's release two years after Longhorn hits the market, so to make things easier they call it "Longhorn Server". Still two completely seperate products though

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