Gui And Debian

[gore]

Originally posted here by cgkanchi
I'm not saying that SuSe is bad, just that I don't like it. Hell, it could be the best distro for beginners ever and I still wouldn't like it. All I'm saying is that, once you know what you're doing, it's easier to edit a configuration file than use a graphical tool. And you never get to the point where you know what you're doing if you have a graphical tool to hold your hand all the time. SuSe is great for people who want to just get into Linux OR Linux gurus. But not for the rest of us who really want to learn.

Cheers,
cgkanchi

SuSE comes with Vi just like every other version, so you can still edit configuration files by hand, as I have done. But when I'm running late, I don't have the time to sit and go through it by hand sometimes. But I have, so don't say SuSe makes you not want to learn. I've learned a lot on SuSE. You could always type "init 3".

I guess it's odd that my favorite is SuSE and my second is Slackware.

[Shrekkie]

YAST2 is one of the best appications ever made. You won't be emerging that.

It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....

You could always type "init 3".

Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

Btw I'd suggest you just installed a new gentoo base system, and knock yourself out finding differences between the suse cdrom's and the portage mirrors from Gentoo.
Try "emerge -s <keyword>" to see if its available in the sync-trees ... I bet you will be pleasantly surprised.

[Shrekkie]

YAST2 is one of the best appications ever made. You won't be emerging that.

It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....

You could always type "init 3".

Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

Btw I'd suggest you just installed a new gentoo base system, and knock yourself out finding differences between the suse cdrom's and the portage mirrors from Gentoo.
Try "emerge -s <keyword>" to see if its available in the sync-trees ... I bet you will be pleasantly surprised.

[gore]

Originally posted here by .: Shrekkie :.
It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....



Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

You're missing my point. You can go farther with ANY distro you want. It's still Linux....Except Gentoo, that's BSD with a Linux Kernel....Nevermind, you'll just get pissed again.

I've gone farther with SuSE. and when I started using Slackware, I thought it was easy, because I actually knew how to do things by hand from using SuSE. It's only to easy if you're un-willing to look...Bah, I'm cranky and going to bed. I've had finals all week, and I have to be to work in 7 hours.

And for some reason people think just because there is a GUI tool to do things for you, you somehow, for some reason, can't use anything else.

[gore]

Originally posted here by .: Shrekkie :.
It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....



Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

You're missing my point. You can go farther with ANY distro you want. It's still Linux....Except Gentoo, that's BSD with a Linux Kernel....Nevermind, you'll just get pissed again.

I've gone farther with SuSE. and when I started using Slackware, I thought it was easy, because I actually knew how to do things by hand from using SuSE. It's only to easy if you're un-willing to look...Bah, I'm cranky and going to bed. I've had finals all week, and I have to be to work in 7 hours.

And for some reason people think just because there is a GUI tool to do things for you, you somehow, for some reason, can't use anything else.

[gore]

Originally posted here by .: Shrekkie :.
It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....



Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

Btw I'd suggest you just installed a new gentoo base system, and knock yourself out finding differences between the suse cdrom's and the portage mirrors from Gentoo.
Try "emerge -s &lt;keyword&gt;" to see if its available in the sync-trees ... I bet you will be pleasantly surprised.

I'd rather knock myself out with a baseball bat than Gentoo. If I'm going to have a box down for a day and a half, I might as well be down with it.

You're not going to change my mind. Mainly because I have NetBSD, and 7 versions of Free BSD, and I don't see why I'd use Gentoo, when I could use BSD. As for one command doing updates, I like Libranet too. It's not outdated like Debian, and uses apt-get and .deb packages. And the Kernel recompile program is amazing.

Maybe YOU should try out a few of MY recomendations? Like when I told you to use Free BSD, or when I said for you to try out ROCK Linux.

You used to be a supporter of SuSE Linux. Then you install Gentoo and get bragging rights, and tell everyone they should switch from SuSE to it.

And for your information, I have 2 versions of Gentoo, including 2004. I havn't installed it yet, so I made no statements towards it, as I do at least try it before ripping it.

I'll stick to Slackware and SuSE. Install takes about 20 minutes as I have a floppy with the packages I usually use saved on it, and if I am setting the box up for another reason, I add those in.

[gore]

Originally posted here by .: Shrekkie :.
It's like cgkanchi said, It's not that Suse is bad, it's just that sometimes people won't to go further.
For me its Gentoo, For CG its Slackware, for another its BSD, ....



Well thats not true either, I like a pretty gui too, to surf, to chat, for common days work ...
yet i know there is still a sweet base Eterm waiting for me if needed.

Btw I'd suggest you just installed a new gentoo base system, and knock yourself out finding differences between the suse cdrom's and the portage mirrors from Gentoo.
Try "emerge -s &lt;keyword&gt;" to see if its available in the sync-trees ... I bet you will be pleasantly surprised.

I'd rather knock myself out with a baseball bat than Gentoo. If I'm going to have a box down for a day and a half, I might as well be down with it.

You're not going to change my mind. Mainly because I have NetBSD, and 7 versions of Free BSD, and I don't see why I'd use Gentoo, when I could use BSD. As for one command doing updates, I like Libranet too. It's not outdated like Debian, and uses apt-get and .deb packages. And the Kernel recompile program is amazing.

Maybe YOU should try out a few of MY recomendations? Like when I told you to use Free BSD, or when I said for you to try out ROCK Linux.

You used to be a supporter of SuSE Linux. Then you install Gentoo and get bragging rights, and tell everyone they should switch from SuSE to it.

And for your information, I have 2 versions of Gentoo, including 2004. I havn't installed it yet, so I made no statements towards it, as I do at least try it before ripping it.

I'll stick to Slackware and SuSE. Install takes about 20 minutes as I have a floppy with the packages I usually use saved on it, and if I am setting the box up for another reason, I add those in.

[Shrekkie]

You used to be a supporter of SuSE Linux. Then you install Gentoo and get bragging rights, and tell everyone they should switch from SuSE to it.

Are you that retarded or can't you read mine or CG's previous posts ? Suse was good to me, till I found Gentoo being better suited for me. I have tried numerous distros before settling definite for Gentoo.

And for your information, I have 2 versions of Gentoo, including 2004. I havn't installed it yet, so I made no statements towards it, as I do at least try it before ripping it.

So and where did I EVER ripped something before I tried it ?

You just can't stand I left Suse for Gentoo.

Ugh **** it, You'll just stay ignorant american-style ... I've been nice enough ...
( ^ there are indeed exceptions )

[Shrekkie]

You used to be a supporter of SuSE Linux. Then you install Gentoo and get bragging rights, and tell everyone they should switch from SuSE to it.

Are you that retarded or can't you read mine or CG's previous posts ? Suse was good to me, till I found Gentoo being better suited for me. I have tried numerous distros before settling definite for Gentoo.

And for your information, I have 2 versions of Gentoo, including 2004. I havn't installed it yet, so I made no statements towards it, as I do at least try it before ripping it.

So and where did I EVER ripped something before I tried it ?

You just can't stand I left Suse for Gentoo.

Ugh **** it, You'll just stay ignorant american-style ... I've been nice enough ...
( ^ there are indeed exceptions )

[cgkanchi]

It seems like the three of us get into distro wars too often . Slack and Gentoo have been a source of numerous discussions, ok flames, between me and shrekkie on IRC.

SuSE comes with Vi just like every other version, so you can still edit configuration files by hand, as I have done. But when I'm running late, I don't have the time to sit and go through it by hand sometimes. But I have, so don't say SuSe makes you not want to learn. I've learned a lot on SuSE. You could always type "init 3".

Speak for yourself . I used RedHat for years and learned less than when I used Slack for a month. I at least am too lazy to learn how to edit stuff by hand unless I have to. I have a feeling that that's true for a lot of people. Slack has taught me a hell of a lot about Linux and I'm sticking with it, even if it's just for the loyalty factor.

Cheers,
cgkanchi