cell phone virus ?

[RoadClosed]

First off you have to turn on Bluetooth. Second you have to turn on a device to connect to with it and make the connection. So if you do that, you are vulnerable assuming someone just happens to be standing next you you sneering and copying your files like Moms phone number or a recipe for cup cakes. Typicaly the range is 3 feet and it shuts off after inactivity. As cell phones become Dick Tracy mobile data centers, they, like all OS systems will need to be protected. It's like windows 95 connected to the internet back in the day. No firewall, no antivirus no connection to the internet unless activated via a modem. I wonder if those phones affected by Cabir could be patched through the cell net? I would also think those with Palms are safe for now, until an exploit is found of course but then they would have to break my file encryption on the device before getting anything. The latest palms have bluetooth, 802.11 and VPNs built right into the daddy. That makes it a mini-laptop type device in my opinion, the line between phone and computer is disapearing. In fact there are some palm based VOIP apps out there, who needs a cell network anymore?

[Cybr1d]

line between phone and computer is disapearing. In fact there are some palm based VOIP apps out there, who needs a cell network anymore?

I have to disagree with that completely...who needs a palm anymore when your cell phone can take care of everything that palm can ...check out the new MPX220 from motorola.

[RoadClosed]

lol, I agree. I have been debating a new "smart" phone for a while. Right now I use a neatly coined PAN where my Nokia is a blutooth gateway to the internet via ATT GPRS service. But when you flip the coin there are 802.11 hotspots all over my hi-tech city. With a voip app I can call for free through a voip gatway at home, or a much less fee than ATT offers via a commercial voip gatway. I don't really think of those phones with Palms in them as phones anymore. They are PCs that just use the data connection that happens to be connected to a GSM style network. In my mind the phone becomes the less significant reason to use the device but then again I am not a salesman. Either way I think they are great and don't really consider infection a high risk at this time but will be watching.

[Simple Simon]

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In fact there are some palm based VOIP apps out there, who needs a cell network anymore? [/QUOTE]

So how is the IP transmitted without the cell network? Perhaps Wireless networks are more prevalent in your part of the world?

[yourdeadin]

i truly agree with simon , but then the discussion went a bit out of the topic

coming back to the topic

ROAD CLOSED SAID
" ofcourse but then they would have to break my file encryption on the device before getting anything"

back to win 95 days remember when 16 bit encryption was more thaen enough or should i tell you the famous bill gates dialogr "64kb ram will be more than enough for eveybody"

see to be truth ful a real hacking incident came only after 20 yrs of computer invention (ibm's personal computer) , so cell phones ,blue tooth,infrared communication and stuff like that are relatively younger slowly and steadly the counter part will also devolope , just let people get their hands down and dirty with blue tooth and stuff like that and belive me the day is not far when you will be using a fire wall to gaurd your blue tooth communication port with some anti virus like norton or pc-celline

and to cybrid

you seem to be a die hard fan of motorolla , seems you are a sales man or stuff like that :-)just kidding , yes i agree with you who needs a palm top but yes you must agree palm tops can do some stuff that a mobile cannot , like for example take scribbling of notes on a touch screen pad and like wise can be said .

[RoadClosed]

yourdeadin, you sort of caught the meaning of my analogy with the PC. I wasn't hinting at it can't happen, it will. I was hinting that cellphones in reference to hacking are like the PC once was, unprotected until the need surfaced. Simple Simon, at least in my city they are everywhere. Sure not as good as a cell phone but most airports and large metro areas have many hotspots. Sort of like cell phones back in the 70s and early 80s. Leave a city and you were toast. My point also is they aren't just phones anymore. Some are running Windows! And we all know what that does for security and the world is now withing the realm of PCs. Palm is like the Linux of the PDA world, except it's not free but it's not Windows. More like MAC I guess. I don't disagree that risk and danger lurk, it's just I won't worry too much about it until it rears it's head. Products that prevent them won't appear until then anyway because there is no market among mass consumers. Firewalls didn't come around in even basic popularity until broadband was invented and affordable. Besides I am playing devils advocate for purpose of discussion. Do I have a firewall or antivirus on my Palm... nope.

My own personal take on any form of wireless access is: It's a risk, period. Even secure networks take constant monitoring and attention. Like quoted from an article posted in another forum, authored by the NIST. "It's like putting an ethernet port out in the parking lot." I can talk all day about how I don't worry about it because in my business the risk to too great and the staff too small to secure a wireless network full of Palm type devices. I speak on personal terms, surfing the net at Starbucks or at the bar.

[Cybr1d]

and to cybrid

you seem to be a die hard fan of motorolla , seems you are a sales man or stuff like that :-)just kidding , yes i agree with you who needs a palm top but yes you must agree palm tops can do some stuff that a mobile cannot , like for example take scribbling of notes on a touch screen pad and like wise can be said .

You're absolutely right ....i sell AT&T cell phones in one of my stores...thats where i've been working for a while now, as well as the Internet Caffe, and I love my Motorola Mpx200.


http://www.mobile-review.com/review/...px220-en.shtml MMMM SEXY