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September 1st, 2004, 10:04 AM
#11
One little question:
What will you find in microsoft's website though? Well just to show your skills then I don't think it is good investment considering amount of time and money they can spend to trace you.
Thats all I can think :-)
It\'s all about sense of power.
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September 1st, 2004, 02:04 PM
#12
the Lebanese secret police
?? What, are they gonna track you down with their $8.27 annual budget? 
Relyt was dead on with the "hardware firewall" as it is an incorrect term, to my knowledge there are no commercially availible hardcoded firewalls, just computers designed to run limited purpose operating systems with firewall software. (with enough effort any of these "hardware firewalls" could be used as a desktop system... hello qnx )
Why has www.microsoft.com not been hacked? Because there have been no exploits released in the last few years that would have compromised even an unpatched, properly configured Win2000/2003 systems... only those with lax procedures and policy compliance.
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:38 AM
#13
Thank you for all the Answers
i asked this question becasue i heard that some of the biggest computer companies made a deal in the 1999 to make some thing called a secure computer that protect the computer using hardware firewalls and hardware security stuff
it sounded strange
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:50 AM
#14
I don't really care about getting traced
i live in lebanon man!!!
here we sell any CD for 1$ or less
and most of the stuff we do on net are internationally illegal
but no one cares here ..!!
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:58 AM
#15
?? What, are they gonna track you down with their $8.27 annual budget?
Hey, when they cash my cheque that will triple
Rachid, please ignore the humour................yes I recall what you are talking about, but this is at server level not your desk-top or home device.
I last visited your city in 1965 please keep it as I remember it
Cheers
sorry....... Salaam
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:21 PM
#16
Rachid Abdallah
some of the biggest computer companies made a deal in the 1999 to make some thing called a secure computer
It must have been a computer that was never intended to be turned on The only truly secure computer is still in the Styrofoam, is not plugged into an outlet or even turned on. Additionally it must not have any software loaded and even the firmware could be buggy!
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:35 PM
#17
BTW -- just a thought. Even if you did hack the microsoft site (assuming that you simply wanted to reck the site cause I doubt they store important info on the site or accessable by the site), they probably have several backup servers which could be switched for the hacked one relatively easily. As soon as they figured out they had been hacked they could get back online pretty damn quickly.
And I'm sure they have some sort of advanced logging techniques that are almost impossible to circumvent.
That all would make hacking the ms site almost pointless.
ac
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September 2nd, 2004, 11:42 PM
#18
i cant wait till the day when the "unhackable" computer ships out to users and companys world wide.....i heard they plan to deliver by means of flying pigs.....
work it harder, make it better, do it faster, makes us stronger
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September 3rd, 2004, 10:23 AM
#19
Originally posted here by hexadecimal
i cant wait till the day when the "unhackable" computer ships out to users and companys world wide.....i heard they plan to deliver by means of flying pigs.....
Actually I am founding a company that deals with training and certifying flying pigs to deliver MicroSoft patches and secure computers to users worldwide, as part of MS's new campaign of educating the users. The flying pig comes at no cost for the customer, however in those countries where these pigs are at risk to be cut and barbequed a small levy charge will be imposed on the users [as MicroSoft did not want to assume any responsability - as per Bill's last e-mail to me].
As for HWFW I think getting a base Gentoo sustem [I'm biased] configured with both local security in mind and some advanced NAT/IP Masquerading rules does the trick just as well as let's say AlphaShield does [it cracks me up when I see the 100% unhackable sign on their boxes]. The operating principle is the same, just that companies have the possibility of producing these firewalls so that they occupy less space [such as a router, which although isn't a full-fledged firewall it has some pretty good security implementations].
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September 14th, 2004, 01:48 PM
#20
It must have been a computer that was never intended to be turned on The only truly secure computer is still in the Styrofoam, is not plugged into an outlet or even turned on. Additionally it must not have any software loaded and even the firmware could be buggy!
Dont forget coated in 1.5 inches of duct tape. That will secure ANY box in the world 
Seriously dude you need to rethink your point of view on all this. People who build webpages, especialy big companies like microsoft, put alot of time and effort into creating their sites. why would you want to destroy that? What has the poor dipshit that has to fix that site after you demonstrate your 1337 h4x0r ski11z ever done to you?
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