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    well if you change the password, he can reset and set it back to his password...correct? either way, you cannot sniff out a router's password, because it is not sent out anywhere....
    i suppose you *could* sniff the packets from when your friend logs onto the router, but that would be hell to even bother with...seeing as how the packets aren't in plain english and are beyond my networking knowledge.

    there are default passwords sometimes hardcoded in the BIOS, you may wanna google "default passwords" (followed by your router name/model). otherwise you'd get stuck with some bruteforce/dictionary attack.

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    Hmm, I do believe the network is switched. Using a tool like Ettercap NG I could theoretical sniff the traffic. Because the the router uses a WWW management. And as you said, when the other uses loggs on the management. I think it would work, at least.. I also know the default password.. But that won't help me. Maybe the Brutus tool would help me...

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    Since he has _physical_ access you are basically screwed.... Face it.... Shell out the cash for your own connection and secure it virtually and physically then laugh every time you walk past him.

    OR.... If you don't want to commit to a contract because you are moving out in a few months poll your neighbors and see if they have a high speed connection. Offer to firewall them off in exchange for you piggy backing on their connection via wireless..... Then laugh harder at your roommate every time you walk past him and say *COUGH*Dickhead*COUGH*

    The wireless one will definitely foxx him.....
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    Hehe, it would be to dramatic to get my own connection..
    I have already searched for wireless networks nearby, 2 open-for-all networks, but with wery bad signal.. Im just letting him play around and think he's the boss for a while.. then might install a little scheduled task on his computer to execute an hour after im gone, surprise, surprise

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    then might install a little scheduled task on his computer to execute an hour after im gone, surprise, surprise
    That, of course, would be illegal....... But I can't say that I am above something like this in the situation you are in.....
    Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
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    Amazing how well Thai revenge works. This is a bit offtopic, but a good example -

    My friend 'Bob' got hired at a computer firm who's business is quite large. They offered him a whopping 7 bucks an hour to be their 'sysadmin', then treated him like a field hardware tech. He spent 6 months doing this because he needed the money - 60+hours a week, huge amounts of travel, and general abuse from his boss. Now add to this that Bob's wife suffered from a chronic health problem, and he often had to spend late nights with her at the local emergency room. One day he missed work over it, calling in and informing his boss that he'd be doing so. The boss fired him the next day.

    Now the thai revenge part -
    About the time he started getting fed up with the long hours, extraordinarily low pay, and general abuse, he started thinking about their (completely computerized and on the business lan) time clock system. It was an old legacy machine they used for all employees, and he got root on it quite easily (he's sysadmin, remember? root on everything). So he puts his coding skills to work and writes a 'watchdog' program that watches, every day, for his clock in/out, with if statements looking for him not clocking in or out for 1 week consecutive. On success of that little if statement, a separate function calls out other malicious programs throughout the network, doing many, many hideous things - including - completely wiping the Linux mail server, trashing the cisco voip phone system, and implanting various virii on nodes throughout the net.

    Now ordinarily, this would be bad enough, but it had a ripple effect - it seems that in their 'tech support' department, the boss had been having the techies login to various client's nets as well - these clients are somewhat large businesses located primarily in the US, but several are international as well. They're all on Unix. They, too, all got wiped as a result of the implanting of the malicious software... Total cost to the business? 1 very good sysadmin who was very pissed,
    several high-dollar clients who'd spent in excess of $20k for their servers alone, not to mention repairing the damage which was directly provable to their own network, and their own Lan/Wan and Voip, which was completely devastated. Just to add his own flair to the entire thing, the admin had coded in a 'self wipe' to the initiating code - all automatic, no tracks.

    Now, I don't condone what my friend did, but had I been in his place, I'd *still* be laughing my arse off, 4 years after the fact.

    Back ontopic - You might mention to your landlord (the idiot's father) that since you've been deprived of your broadband access by him, you refuse to pay for it, or you'll withhold rent until it's restored completely. Be advised that since you have little or no bargaining power, this'd bring a lot of crap down on you though.
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    Quite funny story you got there
    But, is it allowed to fire someone just because of that?
    That is not "allowed" where I live.. (I think)

    Like I said earlier, im going in defensive mode for a while. But in a later imaginary case, it's not smart to pay for something you don't actually have. So be hard when you got to...and refuse to pay..

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