its like this... I've found one in the paper for bout a hundred bucks... guy got it from a surplus auction from a school... theres some updates and according to my searches, it can be updated a lil more... say it's a 233 mHz... is it possible to compare that to a pc for performance... I'm more or less a tinkerer and thats the main platform I haven't played with not counting sun... I like playing with old equipment.. nostalgic I guess... from the days of atari and all that