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April 29th, 2005, 06:28 PM
#11
So the mixing of city government with a computer related business endeavor is going to work?
It works perectly well. I pay my parking tickets, car registration, electical bill, water, sewer, etc all on-line and monitor traffic patterns in real time. Very business like. In fact I use the library more on a computer than actually going in person. You could argue they aren't business' but the power company is a public owned business. In fact the city operates the airport, and all the wireless connection inside it. If they actually charge people to connect and make a profit, I could see the FCC stepping in to regulate. In fact the fcc may see it as a public service like operating a parking garage (which is also automated by computers) But hold on, if they do that and rule on profitibility versus a public accessable frequency ban, then all the pay as you go wireless services would be out of business. I just don't see what the big deal is, you are more likely losing your connection to the guy using a coordless at the gas station. It's a public band, and eventually without the governments help every house in America will have one. Hey, what if all the government offices bought coordless phones? Cities are already full of Verizon hot spots that are pay as you go and annoying. There is a hell of a lot more than wi-fi in that band, microwave links, bluetooth, coordless, alarm systems, video streams..... on and on.
I think the isse is really the government versus someone like verizon lighting up a city. The governement stepping on a public band, even though there would offer their services to the public.
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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April 29th, 2005, 07:10 PM
#12
I don't use wireless. It ain't natural. Your data going out into thin air.
If God had intended for you to have wireless, he'd a put an antenna
in your head. It ain't natural, I tell ya.
I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.
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April 29th, 2005, 07:25 PM
#13
And one from his wife.. same story.. just out sourced to a Japanese gardener.. Smaller, faster, cheaper to run and is just as easy to understand..
lmfao...sorry I found this incredibly funny...back to the ranting about giant wireless networs.
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April 29th, 2005, 08:58 PM
#14
Well, I think that Tiger has opened up a very succulent can of worms here
Because we are well behind North America here, it is interesting to see what we will face over here in 2-3 years' time. Incidentally, do you guys have any objections to being our laboratory rats?
As I understand it (please feel free to enlighten me here) the issue is about control? If you let any Tom, Dick, and Harry set up a wifi network you are likely to end up with total anarchy and chaos.........it could get so bad that it will actually kill the whole concept?
I am blatantly stealing from the Holy Bible, and the Old Testament here.............the bit regarding the wisdom of Solomon...............when two women were brought before him, both claiming to be the mother of the same child, he said "cut the child in half, and give one half to each".........when one of the women said "no! give the child to her, but let him live!"........Solomon knew who the true mother was.
Well............wifi can go along that route.
I would say that you need a single entity to sort the infrastructure, then just divide the licences.
My thoughts so far.............
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April 29th, 2005, 09:13 PM
#15
Banned
The only really "funny," "laughable," and "ignorant" thing about this thread is all the botched uses of the ellipsis.
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April 29th, 2005, 09:21 PM
#16
..... we like them. Hey nihil: "sweak" this lab rat performs tricks for Ale and cheese. Really though the system is designed to work together with other access points. But it could become saturated like American CB radio. ........
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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April 29th, 2005, 09:41 PM
#17
the only really "funny," "laughable," and "ignorant" thing about this thread is all the botched uses of the ellipsis.
Until you decided to rectify the situation by posting that arrogant nonsense perhaps?
If you have anything intelligent or humourous to contribute, please do so...............otherwise STFU.
OH! and if you really want to learn about English grammar, forget Webster.............use "Fowler's Modern English Usage" Webster was American.............
It is commonplace in non-formal writing to use a number of full stops ("periods" are things that ladies get at the wrong time of the month ) to indicate a pause for thought or a follow on.
Incidentally, and for your edification:
is all the botched uses of the ellipsis
"is" is a present singular, and "uses" is plural, so I would say that you fail by your own purported standards
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April 29th, 2005, 10:55 PM
#18
SuperDooper, I will freely admit I don't know how to properly use the "ellipsis", so if you have suggestions, at least I'll be all ears.
RoadClosed , I have to differ.
The government USING computers in their job and the government working for profit as a computer/technically related business for the general public is 2 entirely different things, not mixed together as your post would suggest.
The government is not, can not, and should not be a substitute for commercial business, unless you're living in a Communist country. Communist countries are great examples on how commercial business and the necessary freedoms cannot be met by government.
With 16 years of experience in the government, I would expect poor service, poor coverage, yearly rising costs and eventually laws that prohibit any so-called unapproved wireless transmissions. For me, it's not about control, it's about roles. Whose role is it?
You could argue they aren't business' but the power company is a public owned business.
When was the power company a part of government?
Cities are already full of Verizon hot spots that are pay as you go and annoying.
And why are they so annoying to you?
By the way, the city provided wireless internet won't be free, again the city needs money. Verizon hasn't raised my cable access bill for 5 years, but the state and city I live in has repeatedly raised property taxes (in lieu of sales taxes), city taxes, water costs, education costs/taxes, [EDIT: and GASOLINE tax] etc.
I think the issue is really the government versus someone like verizon lighting up a city.
You are free to think what you want, but in this case the city council member tells us exactly why he has this vision, PROFIT. Clawson is a city in dire need of money.
The only issue here is vote: NO (on proposition #666, government intrusion in our life)
ZT3000
Beta tester of "0"s and "1"s"
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April 29th, 2005, 10:59 PM
#19
Banned
is/are YOU GOT ME! *falls over dead* lol
But then again I never mentioned any standards, nor was attempting to portray a mastery of English myself. I was simply pointing out a fact.
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April 29th, 2005, 11:18 PM
#20
is/are YOU GOT ME! *falls over dead* lol
But then again I never mentioned any standards, nor was attempting to portray a mastery of English myself. I was simply pointing out a fact.
Err... You edited that and you still make no sense whatsoever....
I think you messed up one of your shortcuts.... It was the "chat with little boys about sexual issues" but you managed to link it to a computer security forum.
My advice... Right click on the shortcut and replace whatever is there for the link with "www.aol.com" and try again... Then, with luck, you'll find your way back to where you belong...
OK?
Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you.....
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