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May 10th, 2005, 07:34 PM
#31
Not well known?
Hmmm
Enders Game?
The Gaia Tilogy? First Book "Titan" Second "Wizard" Third "Demon"
Dark Tower Series?
Strange and fun.
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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May 10th, 2005, 07:56 PM
#32
deb... what do you, as a woman (if you really are), think of "fight club". not the movie, but the book do you think it's adolescent bullshit or are men in this county (and else) really in identity crisis
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May 10th, 2005, 09:30 PM
#33
Last time I checked, I'm really a woman. And if I'm not, I'm gonna kick someone's ass over that whole labor/delivery thing a few years ago.
I've not read Fight Club, nor have I seen the movie. It just didn't appeal to me in the least. However, I also didn't know it was a book. I'll check it out sometime and let you know what I think.
I can let you know what I think about the whole male identity crisis idea though. Yes, I think that overall, a lot of men in our society are experiencing an identity crisis. Women are able to work, to earn livings, to take care of themselves, and to have babies, all without the input of a man anymore. Women don't need to be protected, don't need to be supported, and other than the sperm they can get at fertility clinics, don't even need a man to get pregnant. What purpose is there for men anymore? I don't feel this way, I am a fairly traditional stay at home mom, my husband works to support my son and me, and I need him. He knows that, and he is secure in himself and his place in the world. Overall though, I think that men are at a precarious place in evolution in our society.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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May 10th, 2005, 10:22 PM
#34
identity crisis? Yeah if you are a psyco suffering from multiple delusional personalities (as refering to Fight Club, definitely a favorite.)
Men have an identity crisis, if it's true, because of the crap spewed by deb and her female ilk. The constant message "We don't need you - you suck - go away." Let me tell you something sista grrl... we don't need you. You think we can't raise an egg in a bucket simulating a womb? Freeze a few quadrillion eggs? Put one in a cows womb or worse! Or split DNA into any sequence we desire. Force replication of desireable female traits... Ha ha hah ha.
Oh wait... Wait we need em for porn... oops that's gone into the cyber realm as well. No need for photo input. Just a mathematic equations to fill in 3d excellerated models. Guess we don't need women either, which puts the human race into an interesting identity crisis.
Take that womyn!!!! Guess we need each other for a social spritual connection, but if you like we can breed that out too through gene manipulation if it makes you grrls happy.
PS I am playing. But also making a point. That there are two sides to the human element.
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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May 11th, 2005, 03:16 AM
#35
Deb
I see alot of books of hers in used book stores now. She wrote a sc-fi\fantasy series called Dark Over.
I used to have the whole series ...just gave a wack of paperbacks away though...including all those.
She has 2 more in the Mists of Avalon series called The Forest House and The Lady of Avalon...going into the history pre Morgan
Another good read...Grainia by Morgan Llywelyn..about Grace O Mailley..the Irish pirate.
Not that I am a "Man hater" or anything (actually far from it )...I just love reading historical fiction from a womans point of view.
Ayn Rand was a huge influence on me when I was younger...and I think its about time to re-read them. My favorite was We the Living.
MLF
How people treat you is their karma- how you react is yours-Wayne Dyer
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May 11th, 2005, 03:34 AM
#36
Originally posted here by morganlefay
Ayn Rand was a huge influence on me when I was younger...and I think its about time to re-read them. My favorite was We the Living.MLF
I'll second Ayn Rand. She is without a doubt my favorite. Atlas Shrugged holds all the answers to the universe.
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May 11th, 2005, 03:53 AM
#37
Good Lord RoadClosed! I said I didn't feel that way! I was simply stating facts for some men. Just as some women need a man to feel fulfilled, some men need a woman to feel fulfilled. Imagine how those same men, who think they need a woman to need them, feel to know that overall, most women don't need them anymore? I mean really...the reasons that you posted for men to need women are not really needs. They are more along the lines of wants. If reproduction was stopped, both sexes would suffer, not just men or women. However, in all reality, women have, since the beginning of time, required a man in order to survive in the world. That has changed in the last 100 years, and even you have to admit that.
Morgan, I'd love to read more of the Mists of Avalon books. I really loved that. I'm the same way, I love to read historical fiction from a womans perspective. You just don't get it that often, and it's fun. And a female pirate...woohoo!! I am so there!!
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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May 11th, 2005, 06:25 AM
#38
Member
Ola:
Had to kick in about some of my favorite books/collections:
Robert E. Howard: The Coming of Conan - The Cimmerian, The Bloody Crown of Conan - The Cimmerian, The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane.
Chuck Palahniuk: Choke, Fight Club
John Stewart: America (The Book)
JK Rowling: Harry Potter series (thas' right and I said it)
George Orwell: Animal Farm
Mario Puzo: The Godfather
H.P. Lovecraft: everything
Stephen King/Peter Straub: The Talisman, Black House.
Dante: Inferno
Wanda Sykes: Yeah, I said it.
Ayn Rand? That's the second time this week two separate groups of people have mentioned "Atlas Shrugged" I should check it out - is it a (pls forgive this next cliche) "chick book"?
Gracias.
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May 11th, 2005, 10:09 AM
#39
I have too many to name them all, but here are some:
Corelli's Mandolin - Louis de Bernières
The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
Camille - Alexandre Dumas fils
The Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde
The Wings of the Dove - Henry James
The Divine Comedy - Dante Alighieri
The Theban Plays - Sophocles
The Illiad - Homer
The Hannibal Lector Anthology - Thomas Harris
The End of the Affair - Graham Greene
Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
The Thorn Birds - Colleen McCullough
Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
Necessary Illusions and 9/11 - Noam Chomsky
Rage of Angels - Sidney Sheldon
Wheel of Time - Robert Jordan
The Time Traveller's Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
1984 - George Orwell
Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury
The Alchemist - Paulo Coehlo
Granny Dan - Danielle Steele
When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops, Napalm and Silly Putty, and Brain Droppings - George Carlin
Angel Sanctuary (Yes, a manga) - Kaori Yuki
There are only two kinds of programming languages: those people always bitch about and those nobody uses.
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May 11th, 2005, 02:57 PM
#40
The Long Hard Road Out of Hell - by Marilyn Manson
Iceman - by Chris Lynch
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. hyde
I Was A Murder Junkie: The Last Days of GG Allin - by Evan Cohen
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer - Mark Twain
The Destroyer series
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
The Kurt Cobain Journals
Moby Dick - Herman Melville
Frankenstein
The Time Machine - H.G. Wells
The Odyssey
Treasure Island - Robert Louis Stevenson
A Room with a View - E.M. Forster
Uncle Tom's Cabin - Harriet Beecher Stowe
White Fang - Jack London
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