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  1. #11
    Originally posted here by cacosapo
    I really think that the prices are going down (not so fast as i would like) BECAUSE the piracy.
    I agree with this statement. I have always thought that software vendors would be far better to channel the money from the development of security system that will eventually be broken by legions of pirates into making their product cheaper. Why would anyone go searching for dodgy software if they can pick it up at a low price.

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    What is going on here is another method of distributing pre-release songs. If you are a big music company, and want some reviewers in the industry to listen to it and give it the thumbs up, you send them a CD. Maybe one of the reviewers "leaks" their copy to the Internet. With this finger printing tech going into the audio mix, as long as you know that you sent copy "12345" to reviewer "Music Magazine 53" or something, if you find that copy "12345" somewhere on the Internet you know who leaked it and can seek legal recourse against them along with making sure that the industry tanks their company.

    Another interesting thing is that if the reviewer for copy "12345" and "23456" and "34567" worked together to try and remove the embedded signal, they end up embedding their fingerprint into the stream and all of them can be tanked.


    It isn't meant to be used wide-scale for every disc sold with some sort of customer ID system (It would cost a lot to license it from Microsoft at this scale) but it could be useful if you are a music company wanting to figure out who the feck leaks your pre-release discs. If they went to such extremes as gluing a CD-player shut, you know they mean business and would probably consider something like this.

    Of course when the company is building up their release inventory a month or two in advance of the release...

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    Why would anyone go searching for dodgy software if they can pick it up at a low price.
    1. free is better than cheap
    2. becasue they can
    3. so they can say "yea I cracked blah blah blah"
    4. they think it sounds cooler to say "haha I didnt pay for any of this"
    5. they dislike the company
    6. practice cracking software
    probably a ton of other reasons.
    Everyone is going to die, I am just as good of a reason as any.

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  4. #14
    Originally posted here by XTC46
    probably a ton of other reasons.
    True, but I would argue that this would at the very least help the problem. You are always going to get people breaking rules of any kind. Lowering prices would cut a reasonable % of the piracy figures

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    oh, I didnt sya it wouldnt help. But it wouldnt even come close to stopping the problem.
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    Originally posted here by XTC46
    oh, I didnt sya it wouldnt help. But it wouldnt even come close to stopping the problem.
    True. In fact, nothing will stop the piracy. However, if i can buy a music for US$1 (here), i wont never d/l it from internet. Its easier go to an online shop and buy it.
    For example, a (official) pc game here costs ~US$25,00. Its cheap. But about of 70% of games copies here are "alternative". why? because its too expensive for a country like mine. If its costs about $10, noone would buy a pirated one. But the industry allways think "i cant sell the game for $10.. i will loose money"..
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    Originally posted here by cacosapo
    True. In fact, nothing will stop the piracy.
    Well, speak of the devil.


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    Sparks fly as Ottawa releases new Copyright Bill
    By: Joaquim P. Menezes
    IT World Canada (21 Jun 2005)

    The Canadian government, yesterday, kept one promise many had hoped it wouldn't.

    It introduced new copyright legislation that is generally favourable to music companies and recording studios, but has some public advocacy and consumer groups in a tizzy.

    The latter are particularly riled at proposed amendments to the Canadian Copyright Act that they see as infringing on the rights of users – Canadian consumers, educators, students and researchers.

    These controversial amendments include a "making available" right that grants copyright holders the exclusive right to control the dissemination of copyrighted material on the Internet.

    This provision, according to a posting on the Department of Canadian Heritage's Web site means any "unauthorized posting" or P2P file sharing on the Internet will be treated as "an infringement of the copyright."

    The bill also contains legal protections for technological measures (TMs) – encryption, password requirements and rights management systems. Under the new provisions, any removal or tampering of TMs with a view to violating copyright will itself constitute an infringement. Copyright holders are offered "additional tools" to take legal action against P2P file sharing or "unauthorized" posting of copyrighted material.
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    The Bill, expectedly, has been hailed by music companies and organizations such as the Canadian Cable Television Association, but has been slammed by public advocacy groups, including the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC).

    "This is not a happy day for Canadians," said CIPPIC director Philippa Lawson. She criticized the bill saying it "calls for a massive transfer of rights and entitlements out of the hands of the Canadian public and into the hands of copyright holders." According to Lawson, foreign content industries would be very happy with the government's draft legislation, "as they are the big winners here."

    That's a view echoed by Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa.

    In a blog posting on his site after the legislation was announced Geist noted that lobbying efforts of copyright owners – particularly the music industry – have paid off as they are the big winners in this bill.

    The bill, he said, focuses almost exclusively on creating new rights for this select group including legal protection for technological protection measures, legal protection for rights management information, the ability to control first distribution of material in tangible form, new moral rights for performances, a reproduction right for performers, and an adjustment in the term of protection for sound recordings.

    Under the proposed legislation, Geist said, Internet service providers (ISPs) would be virtually compelled to notify subscribers of alleged copyright infringements and to retain relevant personal information for six months.

    But ISPs, he said, also fare well under the new bill, as its provisions clearly state that they are not liable for caching or other hosting of third party content. ISPs are obligated to send a notice if there is a claim of copyright infringement and retain records that reveal the identity of the suspected violator. However, they are permitted to charge for the service (the government will set the maximum fee).

    Geist says the bill provides little solace to millions of Canadians and does nothing to address several key concerns. For instance, he says, greater transparency for Canada's copyright collectives, "which collect hundreds of millions each year, but provide precious little information (on) how that money is spent or distributed is not addressed."

    A Canadian Cable Television Association (CCTA) spokesperson, however, welcomed the proposed amendments. "The cable industry is pleased that the Government of Canada recognizes that as intermediaries, ISPs have no control over the copyright material that passes over their networks," CCTA president Michael Hennessy said in a statement.

    The bill was also hailed by Canadian Recording Industry Association president Graham Henderson as ushering in "a new era for Canada's music industry." He commended the Canadian government "for breaking the log jam and moving this vital legislation forward."

    If anything, he said, the new legislation doesn't go far enough. "The bill fails to provide digital businesses with adequate protections from hackers, and we believe Internet service providers should shoulder more responsibility for piracy that occurs on their networks.
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    I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I bearly make enough to support myself and my family. Fat chance I could afford expensive lawyer fee's. I think I will just stick to paying $10 for CD's.

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    I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I bearly make enough to support myself and my family. Fat chance I could afford expensive lawyer fee's. I think I will just stick to paying $10 for CD's.
    First, im not advocating the usage of "alternative distributing system". I use to hunt those guys
    But if i understood correctly, this act is another vaporware against piracy. If the act of "distribute" or "make available" is against the law, i couldnt see there if download the material is against the law. Aparently is not. So, since a lot of rippers groups start those rip' distribution on several parts of world at sime time, they will simply create the seeds out of countries such as Canada, USA. UK. And everybody will still able to download their favorite "alternative material".
    And for those that dont know how they distributed to the "seeders" on p2p, rippers use cripto transfers thru internet or just use private links - the current fashion is "sat torrents". Very effective for spreading contents thru the world. You can even sign up the service on some places in Europe. How to fight against those? put the satelites down?
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