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September 21st, 2005, 06:38 AM
#51
Hi carenath,
Do I allow others to utilize my network for the same purpose? Yes.... and no. It would depend on their reasons for asking for access (what they hope to learn, why they want to learn it), their overall experience, and whether they could provide verifiable references that could give me an indication of just who they are (in a general sense) and what their ethics are.
I agree...and exactly my point...they are your computers so you should have the right to decide who uses them.
peace,
Eg 
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September 21st, 2005, 11:28 AM
#52
If that's the case then in my opinion your a security professional like others here...if you are using your own network and/or permission to use...
Im not a professional at anything and I beleave using a computer should be called that and nothing more. After using a computer I for one don't feel that I've become anything.
Seriously guys 
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September 21st, 2005, 11:52 AM
#53
Im not a professional at anything and I beleave using a computer should be called that and nothing more. After using a computer I for one don't feel that I've become anything.
What when you will become one?. You hold the responsibility to your computer and should
make sure it does not harm others or act as a point to harm others ( nobody cares if it harms you).
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September 21st, 2005, 12:15 PM
#54
well. there are diffrent types of hackers. ethical, white hat, red hat, deals with linux/unix. etc. theres terrorist hackers and even the U.S. Goverment hacks.. the entire country does. the world does it in one way or another.
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September 21st, 2005, 12:18 PM
#55
What when you will become one? You hold the responsibility to your computer and should make sure it does not harm others or act as a point to harm others ( nobody cares if it harms you
I really don't understand your question & frankly I don't see what the rest of your post has to do with what I've just typed.
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September 22nd, 2005, 02:14 PM
#56
Quit it with the FUD.
Hacker != Cracker
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September 22nd, 2005, 08:01 PM
#57
Im going to quote myself just because im lazy...
Look at anyone who just enjoys computers and leaves it at that... this as opposed to anyone who uses the H-word either in the so called "ethical" sense or not you'll notice the difference between the two right way. A "hacker" is someone who has...
A: Turned on their computer in the hopes and dreams of "being something" and/or "being known for something".
B: Set themselves apart from any random Joe on the internet by appointing themselves and people around them "hackers" and maybe even other various words of self importance despite how limited they actually are as far as computers go.
Oh and my favorite at the moment C: Gets defensive and angry when you sum it up in a way they feel some how hurts their image.
IMHO, the word "hacker" clearly has no positive connotations as far as computers go and this thread is proof. Don't hand me your crap just because you're view of things is entirely based around what you've read in that hacker-faq thingie. You can keep trying to define some word but I have a couple of words to define the people who constantly use it...
Self important - God forbid you admit your not above the average user. Using a computer doesn't "make you into anything special".
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September 22nd, 2005, 08:15 PM
#58
Originally posted here by My SuperMan Ego
Im going to quote myself just because im lazy...
IMHO, the word "hacker" clearly has no positive connotations as far as computers go and this thread is proof. Don't hand me your crap just because you're view of things is entirely based around what you've read in that hacker-faq thingie. You can keep trying to define some word but I have a couple of words to define the people who constantly use it...
Self important - God forbid you admit your just average user. Using a computer doesn't "make you into anything special".
So, I guess welcome back is in order. Are you gonna play nice this time?
You guys know what the swaistika stands for? What it stood before prior to the 1930's? Popular culture has a lot of influence on the icons and symbols we live by...one's choice to adhere to, or discard the values associated with those symbols is purely personal, as long as you recognize that the symbol you value in one light may not be seen the same way by those who see it in another light.
As for arguing about this word and it's use...c'mon. We've been there and done that many times before. Isn't there anything VALUABLE to discuss these days?
"Data is not necessarily information. Information does not necessarily lead to knowledge. And knowledge is not always sufficient to discover truth and breed wisdom." --Spaf
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job. --Douglas Adams (1952-2001)
"...people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong than being right." - Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore
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September 22nd, 2005, 08:24 PM
#59
As for arguing about this word and it's use...c'mon. We've been there and done that many times before. Isn't there anything VALUABLE to discuss these days?
It is never too late or unvalauable to discuss basics and ethics.
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September 22nd, 2005, 08:27 PM
#60
Originally posted here by zencoder
So, I guess welcome back is in order. Are you gonna play nice this time?
You guys know what the swaistika stands for? What it stood before prior to the 1930's? Popular culture has a lot of influence on the icons and symbols we live by...one's choice to adhere to, or discard the values associated with those symbols is purely personal, as long as you recognize that the symbol you value in one light may not be seen the same way by those who see it in another light.
As for arguing about this word and it's use...c'mon. We've been there and done that many times before. Isn't there anything VALUABLE to discuss these days?
Hey zen, is "My Superman ego " our old "special" friend?
Cheers:
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