life sentence with out parole for young offenders.

[!mitationRust]

Originally posted here by Egaladeist
Hi Imitation,

OK...let's solve poverty and maybe the crime statistics will go down a bit and the tax payers will save money on housing two-bit criminals in over-crowded prisons...


Eg

If they're in jail they can't make the babies we have to pay for.

Give me a little while to think on this and I'll be roiling like hulk. You know he's usually calm and polite but when you piss him off he goes on a tear. I'll be back with some more choice views on why a multitude of offspring without the wherewithal is a bad thing for any country. Look at Africa, Mexico, Middle East.

Maricopa County.... I saw that warden he was a hardass...... making the inmates wear everything pink, pink underwear, pink towel,etc...etc...

[Katja]

Originally posted here by !mitationRust
If they're in jail they can't make the babies we have to pay for.

Interesting concept. Still, there is a bit of truth in this. Poor people will always have problems buying anticonception so they choose the cheapest alternatives possible. Yet they don't want to abstinate either. Or maybe they'll try but sex tends to be addictive. To make things worse, the US government is putting more pressure on people to abstinate, knowing well that many people will soon cave in to their desires. They're also trying to provide less information about anticonception tools because of pressure from many religious organisations in the USA. And of course they're alsy trying to ban abortions...

So what happens? People of average wealth or more can buy anticonceptions and ***** around all day because they can afford safe sex. They can also afford an abortion or morning-after pill if required. Poorer people can't and soon the poor women will end up with a bun in the oven that they can't even afford to maintain themselves. And if they're lucky, the father will stay with them to take his part in the childcare but then again in many occasions the father just runs away quite fast. (Or he's in prison, or became a victim of a gang-war.)

What would help is lowering the prices of anticonception a bit and providing a lot more education about them, especially to young teens and perhaps even preteens. Fact is, humans start to become sexually active at a very young age these days. It's nothing special when a 13 year old girl gets pregnant these days anymore. Reminds me of an incident in Belgium that made the headlines recently. A 13 year old girl became pregnant of het 16 year old boyfriend. And once she realised she was pregnant, she did everything possible to hide her pregnancy. Then one day she gave birth to a boy, about two months premature, and just didn't know what to do with the baby so she threw the baby out of the window. (Article here in Dutch. Hope you can understand Dutch...) So think about that... Kids having sex with other kids... And if you don't educate them about how to act in these circumstances, you'll get these dramatic events.

Also consider this... When you start to provide sex education to teens, you've already started those lessons too late these days. It should start much sooner.

[!mitationRust]

Originally posted here by Katja


What would help is lowering the prices of anticonception

We desperately give it out for free now.....I'll reply later on the rest. Pills, rubbers, VooDoo, etc...

[rcgreen]

Reminds me of an incident in Belgium that made the headlines recently. A 13 year old girl became pregnant of het 16 year old boyfriend. And once she realised she was pregnant, she did everything possible to hide her pregnancy. Then one day she gave birth to a boy, about two months premature, and just didn't know what to do with the baby so she threw the baby out of the window.

If the Dutch (Belgians, Germans and French) don't start having more babies,
The Netherlands will soon become an Islamic country. It's a sign of national
sickness that they consider it a personal catastrophe to get pregnant. Will there
be a next generation of workers to pay the taxes to support your generous
social policies?

[RoadClosed]

RoadClosed's government. "Johny I know when you were 14 you knew that guns hurt people. There is no false pretense you can come up with. You weren't just playing with the gun when you waited for that little girl to walk home from school. You waited for her and pulled the trigger. She actually smiled at you before she realized ... registered the flash. See this gun johny, that Bob is pointing at you. This is what she saw, from her perspective. Smile Johnny...."

[cdkj]

Significantly more youth are tried as adults in the adult criminal court today as a result of either Direct File/Prosecutorial Discretion or Statutory Exclusion. Youth tried in the adult criminal court face the same penalties as adults, including the death penalty or life without parole.


Most determinations to prosecute juveniles as adults were not made by judges (15%), but instead by prosecutors or legislatures (85%).

Overall, 82% of youth charged in adult courts were minority youth.

Minority youth were disproportionately charged in adult court. For example, in Jefferson County, Alabama, African American youth accounted for approximately 3 out of 10 felony arrests, but represented 8 out of 10 felony cases filed in criminal court.


White youth are twice as likely as African-American youth to be represented by private counsel. Youth who are represented by private attorneys were less likely to be convicted and more likely to be transferred back to juvenile court.

African-American (43%) and Latino (37%) youth were more likely than White youth (26%) to receive a sentence of incarceration (as opposed to a split sentence or probation).

and as go for birthcontrol it's free no excuse


BTW been doing alot of research on the Juvienile laws

[rapier57]

Hey, cdkj! Nice work!

Yeah, the research is showing. Now, what do we do with the information? We should leverage that information to help solve the root problems, not provide fringe radicals more excuses to kill cops. I know, where the hell did that come from ...

BTW, cdkj, what can I do to change your mood?!?!?!?!?!?!