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Thread: Sony: Why care about rootkits?

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    Sony pulled the software....

    Guess it doesnt like the lawsuits

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...archived=False

    Wish I had time to dig into the EMI stuff...

    I bought the CD last night....( its great by the way....)

    Just wish I had time to *play* with it..

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    If this is a new "copy protection", they realy took a few paces back there or they just plain ran out of options or something.

    Note: The protective buffer resides on top of most commercial CDs......on burned media the top layer is almost non-existent. You can almost always repair a CD with scratches to its plastic bottom through a grind buff.
    yeah smartass, what does that have to do with anything
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    Originally posted here by morganlefay
    So I have purchased the copyright several times.......and what about the stolen\lost or damaged cds....do they replace them?
    He was telling MLF how to fix most damaged CDs, neel.

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    Hey, Morgana~

    Wish I had time to dig into the EMI stuff...
    If you get time, please copy them and post/PM them...............it would be interesting?


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    I wish I had the time.........

    But I am replacing a server this weekend......

    And I need my laptop to be stable

    And you never know what happens when deleting reg keys while drinking red wine
    .....By the way...that is a BIG nono

    Now I tried to use the Kids machine ....little brats bios protected the thing.....

    and with a good password...a variation of one I tried...phone them this morning and asked what it was.....ME "I tried that'
    Them "oh we spelt it differently.....not the way its in the dictionary.....like you told us"

    I am so proud.........my mini mes

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    For anyone who is interested, the EFF have a list of affected CDs plus some advice on how to recognize infected CDs.

    http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004144.php

    Now I tried to use the Kids machine ....little brats bios protected the thing.....
    That made me chuckle............I showed my daughter what can be done with Knoppix, she set a bios password on her laptop straight afterwards, haven't told her I still got access to her C drive over my network though.
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    Just goes to show, how most corporations will put their interests ahead of your's (Despite legality in this case)...Basically, this amounts to tresspasing and an abuse of trust.

    I dont know about everone else, but im getting damn tired of those RIAA, music exec types
    trying to tell me how, when, and where I can listen to the music that I BUY! IF I pay for content, I want to be able to transfer it to my other devices; listen to it on my MP3 player or PDA, or burn it to CD for backup, ...ect. Basically I should be able to do anything with it except sell it or give it away. The buck is stopping with me. I refuse to pay for any media that doesn't all me to do this...I guess there's always bit torrent or limewire...

    P.S. What till the "Trusted Computing" thing kicks off, it's gonna get a whole lot worse...
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    id like to know how they came up with the idea in the first place.. i mean.. wtf were they thinking about?

    using a potentially dangerous technology for their copyright issues... a technology that can be simply exploited by adding the $sys$ prefix to a filename. and yes we have seen the sony's rootkit being used by malwares. there has been 3 cases that i am aware of.

    and that very technology became an issue for the World of Warcraft game. WoW has an additional application called Warden, which checks for any users using cheats. Players have reportedly used sony's rootkit to hide their cheat files. Therefore, the developers of Warden had a very serious issue in their hands.

    using a rootkit is a very poor choice, its obvious that they never thought of the consequences of using such technology beforehand, or maybe they did but never cared.

    and using average user's ignorance about rootkit as an excuse is totally immoral and unethical. it just shows how much they care about their customers.

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    Yeah I have a little script in my mind

    Code:
    For /r %I in (dirname) do Xcopy "%I" "\\pcname\%~pI\$sys$%%~nxI" /v/i/c/g/h/q/r/y/z

    C:\Documents and Settings\larva>xcopy /?
    Copies files and directory trees.

    XCOPY source [destination] [/A | /M] [/D[:date]] [/P] [/S [/E]] [/V] [/W]
    [/C] [/I] [/Q] [/F] [/L] [/G] [/H] [/R] [/T] [/U]
    [/K] [/N] [/O] [/X] [/Y] [/-Y] [/Z]
    [/EXCLUDE:file1[+file2][+file3]...]

    source Specifies the file(s) to copy.
    destination Specifies the location and/or name of new files.
    /A Copies only files with the archive attribute set,
    doesn't change the attribute.
    /M Copies only files with the archive attribute set,
    turns off the archive attribute.
    /D:m-d-y Copies files changed on or after the specified date.
    If no date is given, copies only those files whose
    source time is newer than the destination time.
    /EXCLUDE:file1[+file2][+file3]...
    Specifies a list of files containing strings. Each string
    should be in a separate line in the files. When any of the
    strings match any part of the absolute path of the file to be
    copied, that file will be excluded from being copied. For
    example, specifying a string like \obj\ or .obj will exclude
    all files underneath the directory obj or all files with the
    .obj extension respectively.
    /P Prompts you before creating each destination file.
    /S Copies directories and subdirectories except empty ones.
    /E Copies directories and subdirectories, including empty ones.
    Same as /S /E. May be used to modify /T.
    /V Verifies each new file.
    /W Prompts you to press a key before copying.
    /C Continues copying even if errors occur.
    /I If destination does not exist and copying more than one file,
    assumes that destination must be a directory.
    /Q Does not display file names while copying.
    /F Displays full source and destination file names while copying.
    /L Displays files that would be copied.
    /G Allows the copying of encrypted files to destination that does
    not support encryption.
    /H Copies hidden and system files also.
    /R Overwrites read-only files.
    /T Creates directory structure, but does not copy files. Does not
    include empty directories or subdirectories. /T /E includes
    empty directories and subdirectories.
    /U Copies only files that already exist in destination.
    /K Copies attributes. Normal Xcopy will reset read-only attributes.
    /N Copies using the generated short names.
    /O Copies file ownership and ACL information.
    /X Copies file audit settings (implies /O).
    /Y Suppresses prompting to confirm you want to overwrite an
    existing destination file.
    /-Y Causes prompting to confirm you want to overwrite an
    existing destination file.
    /Z Copies networked files in restartable mode.

    The switch /Y may be preset in the COPYCMD environment variable.
    This may be overridden with /-Y on the command line.

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    FYI

    MS is gonna strip it with the next set of updates...

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1886122,00.asp

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