Anyone besides me remember the old song by Charles Hatcher, mister 00 Soul ( aka. Edwin Starr ) 'War'...love that song...think it was in the movie Rush Hour as well...

in my opinion this 'war' and virtually every act since 9/11 has been mismanaged and not very well thought out...I'm not against war...sometimes war is necessary, as was the case with WW2, in order to bring about a resolution...but...

this war on terror is as ineffective and as ill-conceived as the war on drugs...and no amount of ' spin ' is going to change that...by ' spin ' eg. changing the war in Iraq from one of terror/WMD to a cause for liberation...some people just think everyone is as stupid as they they are...the Iraq's know this is not a war brought about to liberate them...this is not an ultruistic war of compassion and sympathy for the Iraqi people...this is not Canadian troops marching into Holland to liberate them from the oppression of the Germans and being greeted with parades and hugs and kisses and cheering crowds...

eventually...hopefully...for all our sakes, and for the sakes of those young fighting men...they will realize that this is not only an unnecessary war but a highly ineffective one...even if they achieve democracy, or a semblance of it...it will be founded upon sand not rock and will sink at the first sound of Allah is coming.

This is now a war to save face...the original public intent of the war has been duly critisied and discarded...it is now a public war to secure democracy...if they fail in that...and they will ...everyone who went will have died in vain...what a waste.

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