Originally posted here by Tedob1
what i hear is...i can do good or i can do evil. duh! i think i'll do evil!
<Advocatus Diaboli>

Evil and good are irrelevant in this discussion. He is choosing a side between societal symbols of accepted mainstream norm and rejected subversive counterculture. Evil is probably better used as the White Hat perspective. Do you think that government hackers working against their nations' adversaries believe that they are Evil?

</Advocatus Diaboli>

I agree with the speaker at rapier57's meeting. This guy seems like a git who has no life, no social skills, and can only feel empowered by whatever "cred" he get's from the cracker community for writing l337 spl0i7s. I could be wrong. *smirk*

As for the kiddie porn, my experience is slightly different. When I was investigating accusations of criminal behavior in the Internet jurisdiction, most of what I dealt with was fraud and kiddie porn, not skiddies and crackers. However, many of the kiddie porn freaks fancied themselves "hackers" and bought into the whole counterculture...maybe as a justification for their childporn circle of associates, maybe because they figured they could learn to protect themselves from The Feds, who knows. But exploitation of children and 'rootkit skiddie circlejerk clubs' usually had many of the same ties.

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I should copyright/trademark that, rootkit skiddie circlejerk clubs.

Ah, I crack myself up.