Originally posted here by JRUMJ
Sorry I don't mean to jump the gun, just felt his comment was uncalled for.

I have learned about the OSI 7 layers. Which definitely help but I am "curious" as you say about hacking. I am not just speaking of networks. The way I see it is if I cannot do something I want to do I find another way to do it (right? that is how most people are) A administrator will close all entrances to a specific potential problem area (Right??) And he moves along to the next task. Ok that "hacker" found another way to do exactly what he wanted which is why they are hackers (Why I would like to know MORE than I do now about hacking). Hopefully this will clear up any thoughts you guys have of my wanting to hack a bank or something.
If you can on the spot describe the differences between the OSI model and the TCP/IP (or DOD) model, then maybe complaints about what you are and aren't getting taught are valid (or not). Honestly though, in your original post you ask about stuff that requires a good working understanding of networking to know. Do you know what an ISN is? Do you know which (of UDP, TCP, and ICMP) include packet checksums? Do you know what an RFC-standard response is from a router when you're trying to send stuff to a port that's blocked/unavailabe? Which protocols are used in this? It's not run of the mill "I have an IP address, netmask, and gateway" type stuff that you're asking about. You need a solid foundation. Simply saying "I have learned about the OSI 7 layers" doesn't really cover jack.

Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
Girls and boys....

I don't have the time right now or I would help the guy... He's kosher... Cut him some slack and answer the questions.... Most colleges etc. barely teach how a computer works... At least the kid is _thinking_... Give him a break....
Kosher doesn't equate to flaming people who are actually replying with useful information IMO. I think reds are perfectly justified. Crying because it wasn't the exact response he wanted to heard is BS.