9/11 - a conspiracy?

[gore]

I could have sworn that in their Book they are NOT allowed to look at woman... I'm serious man I think that is a law of theirs. I'm not attacking their Beliefs, I think they have heart in what they Believe, and I even understand why they hate America, I just don't agree.

[dalek]

No I think it's more like "their" women cannot show skin, this is why they force them to wear burqa's...Can't see me also if I am not mstaken there is a large Christian Community in Turkey, so if they have beaches that are open to nudist's you can thank those wonderful Christians, also they may not admit it, but most Muslim men love playboy or hanging around Christian nudist beaches...

What they are not allowed to look at is the other guy's property......(Asses,Cattle,Goats and of course the Wife)....

[gore]

Subject: An American good night!

Q Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq ?

A Because they had weapons of mass destruction.

Q But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.

A That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q And that's why we invaded Iraq ?

A Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of
mass destruction, did we?

A That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll
find something, probably right before the 2004 election.

Q Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?

A To use them in a war, silly.

Q I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to
use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went
to war with them?

A Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those
weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend
themselves.

Q That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they
had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back?

A It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those
weapons our government said they did.

A Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those
weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q And what was that?

A Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam
Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade
another country.

Q Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his
country?

A Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q Kind of like what they do in China ?

A Don't go comparing China to Iraq . China is a good economic
competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops
and help make US corporations richer.

Q So if a country lets its people are exploited for American
corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?

A Right.

Q Why were people in Iraq being tortured?

A For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government.
People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and
tortured.

Q Isn't that exactly what happens in China ?

A I told you, China is different.

Q What's the difference between China and Iraq ?

A Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist.

Q Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?

A No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q How are the Cuban Communists bad?

A Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.


Q Like in Iraq ?

A Exactly.

Q And like in China , too?

A I told you, China 's a good economic competitor. Cuba , on the
other hand, is not.

Q How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?

A Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, the US government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us.

Q But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba , and
started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans becomecapitalists?

A Don't be smart.

Q I didn't think I was being one.

A Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?

A I told you, stop saying bad things about China . Anyway, Saddam
Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a
legitimate leader anyway.

Q What's a military coup?

A That's when a military general takes over the government of a
country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.

Q Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?

A You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan
is our friend.

Q Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?

A I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Q Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by
forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an
illegitimate leader?

A Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he
helped us invade Afghanistan .

Q Why did we invade Afghanistan ?

A Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?

A Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi
Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings,
killing over 3,000 Americans.

Q So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?

A Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive
rule of the Taliban.

Q Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off
people's heads and hands?

A Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off
people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Q Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million
dollars back in May of 2001?

A Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job
fighting drugs.

Q Fighting drugs?

A Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from
growing opium poppies.

Q How did they do such a good job?

A Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban
would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing
flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for
other reasons?

A Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off
people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off
people's
hands for stealing bread.

Q Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia ?

A That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy
that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were
in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not
comply.

Q Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?

A No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q What's the difference?

A The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest
yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for
her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of
patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her
eyes
and fingers.


Q It sounds like the same thing with a different name.

A Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis
are our friends.

Q But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th
were from Saudi Arabia .

A Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q Who trained them?

A A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q Was he from Afghanistan ?

A Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a
very bad man.


Q I seem to recall he was our friend once.

A Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet
invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald
Reagan talked about?

A There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or
thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call
them
Russians now.


Q So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends?

A Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years
after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our
invasion of Iraq , so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French
and
the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q So the French and Germans are evil, too?

A Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename
French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Q Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do
what we want them to do?

A No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?

A Well, yeah. For a while.

Q Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?

A Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran , which made
him our friend, temporarily.

Q Why did that make him our friend?

A Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?

A Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we
looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically
becomes our friend?

A Most of the time, yes.

Q And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically
an enemy?

A Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can
profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better.

Q Why?

A Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for
America Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a
Godless un-American Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq?

Q I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?

A Yes.


Q But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq ?

A Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells
him what to do.

Q So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because
George W. Bush hears voices in his head?

A Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your
eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.


Good night, dad....!

It seems on topic. However I don't recall Germany not helping. And I of course love the "flowers".

[Tiger Shark]

Yep... Time to move this to Tech Humor...

[Egaladeist]

I think we can all agree that America is not going to be conferred Sainthood any time soon...but it does have it's redeeming qualities...
America is like a bad cop, he does some pretty sh@tty things but usually to pretty sh#tty people, he hangs around some shady characters but ususally to use them for information and to get worst characters, he would love to go after the Kingpins of crime ( China, Saudia Arabia, etc...) but sometimes you have to settle for the little fish, he's generally a good guy with a warped sense of the world caused primarily by having to constantly deal day after day with the dregs of society...

sometimes a bad cop that gets things done is better than a good cop that gets nothing done.

Eg

[RoadClosed]

gore. Islam is like all religions. One may read a passage, say kill all non-believers and take it literally. And go about killing all who will not covert. Or that Sodomy is a hell worthy death dealing sin. Others take a more logical context approach that deals perhaps more with a philosophy of it's teaching versus strict scripture. It is popular among the left, and I place you in that category for this discussion, to "believe" their own religious scripture of television and political blogs, that Muslims hate us because we mess about in their affairs. Believe me, many have never looked at what they are actually saying. In one essence it is correct though. Because no man who is not of Islamic belief is allowed in ANY holy territory held by Islam. In fact it is their duty as spelled in the Koran to take care of them. That is us. In a way that benefits their entry to "heaven". I have read the Koran MANY times. The speeches of the likes of Osama Bin Laden are filled with many of the same words and passions as Stalin and Hitler. They attack freedom in the sense that a free market is evil. The freedom is evil Making changes to the world political landscape IN their favor will not change this. Eliminating Isreal will not change this and giving into their ideals with enforce their will. Which is religious domination. And too will not change the radical element.

//EDIT.. the topless beaches are used my both Muslims and Westerners. And like all cultures there is a Political Correct face and one of reality. What do you suppose the origin of the protection of a female virute comes from? Hint all monotheistic religions, islam, christianity, judeism have it. Its root is in the dark history of mans behaviour.