ok a couple more things: I say that I cant hear or see anything when I run it in WMP but also it doesnt record in the program itself. let me explain: lets say I am "watching" the news on my pc since I now have this tv tuner card everything works fine. then I hit the "capture or record button" the screen goes black and i hear audio but I see no picture. if I stop the recording the picture and sound comes back. then I open WMP to play what I just saved and it acts like its working ( plays for the appropreiate amount of time) but I cant see nor hear anything. I do have a webcam that I think MIGHT be part of the issue... I have to work today so I wont really have time to mess with it but I will get back to you and see if unplugging my webcam solves the problem.