Ubuntu for your family...

[HTRegz]

There are a number of things that weren't demonstrated in this blog posting...

Most likely his Flash is beta... which isn't a great thing... and now that he's away his parents will not be able to easily get their flash updates as they would if they were running Windows..

He didn't mention disable services.. so now they've got a basic user account with probably an easy to remember password... and SSH sitting open..

He had to get additional hardware for their internet to work..

You have yet to prove anything... this is another linux-zealot promoting Ubuntu for a very basic computer user (Which I believe in your last thread I said would be somewhat OK)...

In fact

Ubuntu is like SuSE and only slightly better than most other Linux distributions.. in that it is geared for two types of people.. Person A is highly technical... Person B knows nothing about computers and emails her grandchildren and surfs the web for recipes... The inbetween people.. there still isn't a Linux for them... Linspire might actually come closest... Linux still has a ways to go...

There's exactly what I said... this is what his parents are doing... I could argue this but you:
A) Are a Linux Zealot
B) Don't listen to reason
C) Really have no clue.

Peace,
HT

[nihil]

Hmmmm,

"Linux for parents"............. it would have to be Linspire in my book, although MAC OS X is a technical contender, apart from the hardware limitations?

I have field tested Linspire in a home for "mentally challenged" people, and it was every bit as good as Windows, apart from the fact that there is far less choice of software.

Just my thoughts

[HTRegz]

Hmmmm,

"Linux for parents"............. it would have to be Linspire in my book, although MAC OS X is a technical contender, apart from the hardware limitations?

I have field tested Linspire in a home for "mentally challenged" people, and it was every bit as good as Windows, apart from the fact that there is far less choice of software.

Just my thoughts

Which lines up with what I said (and you don't often see nihil and I agree)..

Moira: Why would you take exception to that... It's an example.. Everything gets put into context at some point.. I spent a year training people in a public access facility and two and a half year supporting invidiuals at a college, half of the 30,000 students were "Adult" students... in both cases it was the "Adults" and more often than not the 'Older Adults' that were coming in for support and training... When people discuss computers and lack of knowledge, they usually see that little old lady who emails her grandchildren once a week and talks to them on MSN... it's in the commercials, on the TV... everywhere... I picked a generalization and went with it... so chill... I could be rude and make a comment about call center lifers (I spent time in call centers as well... but I was in college and it was a good part-time job and I've seen the people that work there I've also see the "Adults" that pass the training and then claim to more than the young people yet sit and fubar everything... and yes.. I've also see the reverse)... regardless chill.. I made a generalization.. and I picked a pretty popular one in today's society... Turn on the TV.. it's exactly what you'll see.

very_unhappy: Considering you add zero content to this site... I'm extremely tempted to ban you... You are a zealot.. something that the security community frowns upon... There is no "OS Philosophy vs MS Monopoly"... that's something a linux zealot uses to argue their "zealotness"... There is no philosophy related to operating systems... Just as there is no philosophy related to software (FOSS people can take their "philosophy" and shove it for the most part)... That's why most of the people that claim it's a "philosophy" can be categorized and generalized against... They're the hippies that never got the 60s and Operating Systems are their 60s and 70s.. Microsoft is their Vietnam War... FOSS is great... Linux is great.. but everything has it's place... When it comes down to it... You use what works and what is most productive for you... Which is why Linux can't win... OS X is doing great right now.. but it's doing great because of Microsoft and Adobe... CS brings in the advertising people... it performs better on a Mac than it does on a PC... The rest of the world wants a PC.. Microsoft, by providing Office on OS X, has helped Apple.. Now OS X has productivity software that can compete with Windows... Linux doesn't.. OOo just doesn't compare.. I can give you examples in every field on what it doesn't compare... Productivity wise Windows and OS X will always win... Linux can't compete and it will take quite a while for it to compete because of the "FOSS" philosophy that drives it...

I'm betting you're against this Novell / Microsoft partnership as well... yet it's the one thing that can benefit the Linux community.

The end matter is just because there are fewer viruses, doesn't mean it's
A) Easier to use
B) Has more software
C) Won't see more viruses in the future..

His parents are fine on Ubuntu now... but in two weeks when Dad goes to the store and buys Deer Hunter to play in his free time... things will start to change...

Grow up... and get a handle on the real world.

Peace,
HT