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    It does appear that the little things get missed, back when I was younger, who heard of so many people being susceptible to skin cancer, we used to run around in the noonday sun without any worries about the problem we have now.Now everyone is urged to dress up and put on gobs of lotion...(Lotion Mfrs conspiracy...?)


    The Ozone layer is a big thing, it's what keeps the Sun from baking our little asses off, without the Ozone layer we would be another Mercury, and that failure of the Ozone layer is down to man's interference with nature...(pollution).
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0504062245.htm

    Then you have the Asian Brown Haze problem which has an effect.. http://www.infochangeindia.org/features45.jsp

    IMHO, whatever climate changes are happening or the end result (Ice Age etc) as the cycle goes it is inevitable, but we are accelerating the process, can't deny that...I read somewhere that the population by 2016 could be 9 Billion, that's a lot of potential gas guzzling SUV's...
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    Considering that most of the world's population can't afford gas I don't think we have to worry about being overrun with SUV driving soccer moms.

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    China and India are full coal ahead (insert steam if you want), and damn the enviromentalists.

    They are only doing what North America and Europe have been doing for approx 100 yrs Plus...consuming natural resources (and if you hadn't noticed lately copper is being bought or stolen at a premium, as the Far East eat it all up, I remember reading something awhile back about all of the junk or scrap metal that used to litter Mongolia, but now it has been scoured clean by China)at an astonishing rate as their economies expand..
    With more prosperous economies, they might be able to afford more environmentally friendly
    technologies, whereas if they were poor and desperate they would really say damn
    the environmentalists. Environmentalism is a luxury only the prosperous can afford.
    We only began to think about the environment in recent years. In the 1800s, people
    were too desperate, trying to survive
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    I really don't think that the Ozone layer has much if anything to do with global warming. The ozone layer protects us against UV radiation rather than heat.

    Clouds and airborne particles have more to do with the temperature of the earths atmosphere.

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    I really don't think that the Ozone layer has much if anything to do with global warming. The ozone layer protects us against UV radiation rather than heat.

    Clouds and airborne particles have more to do with the temperature of the earths atmosphere.
    That is another irony in the GW debate, it is used incorectely. The ozone is actually depleting because of our human endeaver. The big scare in the 80-90s.. the ozone is depleting because of CFC use. Ban CFCs. Why? We were all going to die from sun-rays.

    Global warming doesn't have much to do with the ozone. It's the whole atmposhpere. Especially carbon dioxide and water vapor. That hold heat that would normally be reflected out into space.
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    Yes, it is "greenhouse gases" such as those mentioned, and methane and nitrous oxide.

    They reflect outgoing long wave radiation back to Earth, just like the glass in a greenhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalek
    It does appear that the little things get missed, back when I was younger, who heard of so many people being susceptible to skin cancer, we used to run around in the noonday sun without any worries about the problem we have now.Now everyone is urged to dress up and put on gobs of lotion...(Lotion Mfrs conspiracy...?)
    Isn't that more blissful ignorance? People used to smoke happily, never realising it was doing them real damage.
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    Not to mention people used to fry up some eggs, sausage and potatoes in a giant glob of bacon fat everyone morning. Hmmm. Damn, were's my old cranky cast iron pan....
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