Bad-Bye, Bad-Riddance, and Fair Poorly. Its finally over.

[Ouroboros]

As George Carlin once said, "When a bunch of 'holy people' want to kill each other, I'm a happy guy!"

Should Saddam have been executed? Yep. Tried and convicted by his countrymen, sentenced to death. Puppetshow? Maybe. On the other hand, put yourself in the place of the thousands of people he persecuted during his presidency (despotic dictatorship)...all over religious beliefs and, of course, political views.

Are we facing the same thing here in the U.S.? Nope. Our votes are counted (almost) accurately. The people in Iraq had NO choice. It was Saddam or die (being very snarky, here).

What people here (in the US) fail to recognize is that contradictive speech is not allowed in powerful theocracies such as those that exist in that area of the world.

Should we be the World Police? Probably not. Are we capable of doing that job? Yep! That is the beauty of democracy, isn't it? Is democracy (I am well aware that we are a Constitutional Republic...give me some breathing room here) not the best system ever imposed?

Is our current President overstepping his bounds? Yes, certainly.

But, unfortunately for the foolish among us, that's not what this is about.

Ideals, way of life, and our American greediness and foolishness are the issue.

How much do you want to homogenize the world? One World Government? One way to live, IN HARMONY?....

Rethink everything, and the consequences...

Ouroboros

[nihil]

Saul of Tarsus................

But I don't think that "Junior" will get any divine revelations on the road to Damascus?

Nuke Iran, nuke Syria................ then let them think about it?

"To err is human,
To forgive, divine,
Neither are Marine Corps Policy"

[Egaladeist]

I wouldn't put it past Junior to nuke em'...if he could get away with it

He's starting to look like the most militarily incompetent President ever...at least Jimmy Carter had an excuse, he was/is a humanitarian...Junior is just incompetent.

Every military campaign he has set out on has failed in it's objectives...as soon as he fails one objective he switches objectives...then fails those objectives...

he may have to nuke somebody just to ensure a win.


Junior is presently responsible for more US deaths than 9/11...9/11 took 2752 lives...Iraq alone ( not counting Afghanistan or non-US lives ) has surpassed 3000...

had he had half a military brain he would have sent the full force of the military , a total and complete and over-whelming invasion, into Afghanistan at the very beginning when he had the full support of the world community and threatened a full scale invasion to any country who would harbor OBL...
inotherwords put the fear of god into the middle east...
captured OBL and gone home.

And maybe...he could have achieved the primary objective with fewer than 500 lives.

A response of that magnitude would have sent shivers down the spines of most Leaders of the Middle East...thinking that could happen to them too if they harbor terrorists.

[ShagDevil]

Well, how many major US military campaigns have been overwhelmingly successful since WWII? Besides Desert Storm?
I'm not bashing the military, on the contrary. I'm bashing the politics behind it. This country has painted itself into a corner with its own policies. Since when has rebuilding a nation that's been invaded become a postrequisite to war? Try telling Hitler to go rebuild Poland.

The obvious response is that the US is trying to keep a civilizied approach to war. We don't want to put the image off that we are barbarians. God forbid we invade a country and *gasp*, not rebuild it and make it all "honkey-dorey" where everyone has cable tv and ice cream.

We're supposed to wins wars with minimal casualties. We're supposed to play nice. We're supposed to take this enormous cache of military might and invade countries with a god-like force that will strike fear into the hearts of anyone who sees it....but make sure we don't hit the local grocery store because we don't want to spoil the bananas.

Sigh. When did war become a media-enriched Romper Room with tanks and jets?

In any event, I'm glad Saddam was hanged. I hope that a-hole goes straight to hell.

[JPnyc]

No, he's s'posed to go to a white room with 71 virgins, who possess a total of 74 teeth.

[morganlefay]

Just remember...this whole situation was created by a lie...the ever so elusive WMD...remember those....by a president that wasnt really elected...but had some help from his bro and daddy.....

as for innocent civilians being killed....and genocide

Wake up..........its happening all over....and has been for years....try reading the fricken news once in a while.

Why arent we doing something about it all over the world.....

you know why........they dont have any oil

MLF

[JPnyc]

Well let's say that's the excuse they used. The real reason behind it is one I suspect we'll never know. There's no way that the US gov. will go to war on the whim of someone who wants to finish "what dad started". No major power has a government in place which is that capricious. If they did, the world would be a dead ball in space by now. Whatever the reason(s) was/were, they're probably not what we're being told, nor what we're surmising. International relations are infinitely more complex than any of us entertain.

[morganlefay]

All I am saying is we should really shed this holy than thou attitude..cause we are just as bad as they are.....

MLF

[JPnyc]

Well no, because in fact, we're not. I understand the emotion coming from you, but it's not factual to say "we're as bad as they are". When 10's of thousands of americans are gassed by the US gov., then we might be as bad as they are. In order to be as bad as they are, we would have to commit similar acts. Citing military aberrations and trying to equate them to aberrant acts committed by a government on it's own people, does not equate.

[morganlefay]

People are people....whether they are your own civilians or some other country's........doesnt make it right

specially when its based on lies and control of the oil

I tell you I would be down right pissed off if some country came into Canada on false pretenses...killed my family and friends, destroyed the infrastructure.....then had the gaul to say it was for my own good

MLF