M$ Fined Again... :)

[HTRegz]

Ah!


Because it is a complaint, and the question is who is responsible?

It's a complaint that both you and I agree is unfounded and should have been addressed by the user... It's like buying a house and then having a home inspection done...

You cannot expect the peripheral manufacturers to write drivers and management software for equipment that was purchased BEFORE an operating system was launched, unless they specifically stated that the new OS would be supported when it was released.

I concur 100%, and the article you posted was people complaining about that... So let's solve this aspect of it.. The people complaining are IT illiterate with no clue and therefore no right to complain on this issue. There point is moot and 100% invalid. They bought a car that ran on propane, moved to a small town and are upset that the local gas station only sells gas.

Micro$oft are the ones who will make the money out of Vista (they hope). The OEMs and peripheral manufacturers have their own agenda for faster chips, cards and so on to stimulate their business. The actual operating system is not so important to them unless:

1. It renders their current product lines and stocks obsolete, leaving them and their retailers holding the baby.

2. It forces people to upgrade from an old product to a current one that they already manufacture.

I think your statement here is flawed... Everyone make money out of Vista...

-- Microsoft for sales
-- OEMs will make money by selling new computers with Vista pre-installed to people who feel they need a new computer
-- Stores will make money off sales of Vista (mark-up always exists, no matter how small)
-- Computer Service Centers will make money by migrating people from XP to Vista.
-- Computer Technicians will make money in house calls because people don't get how things work in Vista.

For Microsoft to roll Vista out successfully they needed to consider:

1. New machines.
2. Upgraded machines.
3. Corporate licence customers.
4. Public licence customers.
5. OEM and peripheral vendors
6. The marketplace.

I don't think Microsoft has to consider anybody... The operating system is the core of the computer... When making a purchase the entire purchase revolves around the operating system.

Let's say I'm a Gamer... You would think that games would drive my purchase.. but not necessarily... I have to consider if I want DX10 Gaming or not. If I do.. I need Vista.. if not, I probably am fine with XP. Now I can decide what system to buy and adjust my specs.

Let's say I'm a total open source geek... I want to run Linux... now I have to select hardware that will run in Linux (example: with the ATI HD 2400XT, the linux driver doesn't support rotating the display 90 degrees).

Let's say I want OS X... now I know I need to buy a Mac...

I was working on a Vista installation the other day. Getting legacy peripherals to work I attached one and it found the new hardware, could not instal it.......... then offered to go to the Manufacturer's site on the web to try to find a driver......................

It seems that MS OSes don't ship with generic driver support for legacy equipment like they used to.

Vista still has plenty of generic driver support... but it's limited... everything was a total rewrite.. Why should Microsoft waste their time rewriting drivers for hardware when the Vendor isn't willing to support it?

[CybertecOne]

Lol that whole idea of someone in a garage taking Microsoft down is a direct quote from "Anti-Trust" the movie. They used it in court as a reason they have no Monopoly.

Quite possibly the very movie that inspired Gates' paranioa......... wow, a sudden thought - What would the world be like without Bill Gates??

For instance, the world is waiting for the queen mum to pass away (No offence but lets be realistic.... its going to happen) but what would be the (in)direct result of his death to software, economy and yada yada..... =)

CTO

[nihil]

I don't think Microsoft has to consider anybody... The operating system is the core of the computer... When making a purchase the entire purchase revolves around the operating system.

I see what you are saying from that viewpoint. Actually I was looking at it from the business objective of maximising revenue, which requires you to read the market and respond to it.

OEMs will make money by selling new computers with Vista pre-installed to people who feel they need a new computer

Well they would do the same with XP?

Upgrades are certainly additional revenue for all concerned. That is why I find it strange that the Vista readiness tools are not available for Windows 2000, as those users would be prime targets for upgrading?

I know you see figures that suggest that it is not used that much, but those are based on visits to sites that many non-private users would not be allowed to access. Certainly round here it is by far the most common OS in business, government and education.

[nihil]

Well, here is an interesting article:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...oft-bends.html

It would seem that the vainglorious M$, who we are told don't have to consider anybody? actually revised the requirements for the "Vista Capable" designation at the eleventh hour

The reason? well, it seems so that Intel could pimp their 945 crapset for one more season

Needless to say, HP are not best pleased, as they had alredy agreed with M$ to adhere to the earlier "Vista Capable" standards. That put them (HP) at a competitive disadvantage because other OEMs could badge their cheaper products with the 945 chipset as "Vista Capable".

I would suggest that Redmond get working on their next label:


Might work with Windows 7