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Manbik
September 22nd, 2001, 02:22 AM
Just got back from lunch and feeling fat and satisifed I started to ponder the new virii that hit the net this week and I got to thinking.

Two points:
1) The new wave of virus's are eating up a massive amount of bandwidth.
2) I think we can safely assume that a hacker spends a good deal of their time online even if not hacking.

Just seems that hackers are hurting themselves... along with others of course. In the end they are just eating up their own bandwidth.

I miss the good old days when a virus meant a harmless lil ambulance running around on your screen.

/sigh


-Manbik

RogueSpy
September 22nd, 2001, 02:38 AM
It's not really the "hackers" that are creating these virii. Its all the new script kiddies out there that want to prove themselves to the Ë£îtë h@×ø®$. They get ahold of just enough information to be dangerous and then they go for it. Dont you think?

Evil Homer
September 22nd, 2001, 12:19 PM
yes, they hurt themselves in a way, but if someones stupid enough to risk being sent to prison, they most certainly are stupid enough to eat up thier bandwidth

magic1
September 22nd, 2001, 06:06 PM
ok
this is the situation
who is losing bandwith is not the hacker
but the target
the hacker is not a terrorist in a plane that crash with it
but the master mind, that place the bomb in the plane and the plane crash without him

don't missunderstand me

Bin laden is not a hacker

Cheeseball
September 22nd, 2001, 08:35 PM
I believe I still have the ambulance virus on my 80286 at home..I will have to see if I can find the source to it...I believe it appeared in an article of Hexed one month...:)

Remote_Access_
September 22nd, 2001, 09:36 PM
i agree with rouge on this one. these so called "script kiddies" are finding just enough information on malacious code and then they start send it out to every one to try and prove them selves to the "1337"....
Latr--
Remote_

RogueSpy
September 22nd, 2001, 11:53 PM
Four colleges in my area have had their servers shut down due to these damn virii!! When will the madness end? It will never end. as long as there are so called 'script kiddies' out there, the world will never be safe. I hate to say it, but these so-called teenage 'script kiddies' are giving all the other 'script kiddies' a bad name. . . Hmm, what tha h377 am I trying to do. . . . see how many times I can say script kiddie? Ok, Ill stop now. . . Script Kiddies. :P

Manbik
September 23rd, 2001, 12:09 AM
I can see the point of the "script kiddies" making the virii but I dont agree with the selected targets. They may have intended for a specific target but the way the virus spreads, there is no way to control it. The latest Nimda virus spreads indiscriminately eventually it will make it back to the person/persons that created it.

Our servers were patched before we got hit but it did effect bandwidth to some extent. On the first day, Nimda tried to propagate itself into our servers over 10,000 times.

I guess it goes back to the saying, A little knowledge can be dangerous. Proven in the IT world over and over again.

-Manbik

*edit* Needed to update my profile with a avatar. Looking through the list to choose from... seems someone has a obessesion with Pokeman, there a ton to choose from. ;)

Remote_Access_
September 24th, 2001, 12:12 AM
Manbik:
I can't see the point of the so called "script kiddies" even makeing the viruses. what is the point. why creat insufficient malicous code and the spread it all over the internet/internat???
but u are right, A little knowledge can be dangerous. they may or may not have had a specific target, who knows, but it eventualy spreads to other servers,netwerks,and computers causeing unnecessary damage to hundreds of thousands of computers.
so manbik, please explane the point...
:mad: latr--
Remote_

mvcrash
September 24th, 2001, 12:47 AM
Whats a 1337?.........

Terr
September 24th, 2001, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by mvcrash
Whats a 1337?.........

If you see people saying things like 1337 or |-|4X0r, what they really mean is a word that has been changed by successive uses by people who don't know how to spell. And some think it's sort of cool or write weirdly. For instance:

1337
L337
LEE7
LEET
'LEET
ELITE

(31337 -> ELEET -> ELITE)

So people mis-spell it and swap letters for numbers and symbols which bear a superficial resemblance.

|-|4X0r

H4X0r
HAX0r
HAXOr
HAXOR
HACKS-ER
HACKER


etc.

htm
September 24th, 2001, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Terr


If you see people saying things like 1337 or |-|4X0r, what they really mean is a word that has been changed by successive uses by people who don't know how to spell. And some think it's sort of cool or write weirdly. For instance:

1337
L337
LEE7
LEET
'LEET
ELITE

(31337 -> ELEET -> ELITE)

So people mis-spell it and swap letters for numbers and symbols which bear a superficial resemblance.

|-|4X0r

H4X0r
HAX0r
HAXOr
HAXOR
HACKS-ER
HACKER


etc.

we should have a contest to see
who can spell hacker the most ways

the person who can spell it the most ways
wins the title of being the "1337357 |-|4cK0r"

mahaha ph33r /\/\y /\/\4D 5ki11s

:mad: HTM gone ****ing nuts with every one allways talking about , 1337 , H4ck0rz , newbies , script kiddies , ect :mad:

Manbik
September 24th, 2001, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Remote_Access_
I can't see the point of the so called "script kiddies" even makeing the viruses. what is the point. why creat insufficient malicous code and the spread it all over the internet/internat???


I don't claim to know what motivates people but you kind of answered your own question a few posts up. Maybe they want to prove themselves in some way to their peers.

I just saying that the people responsible for making these virus's/worms are hurting themselves.

-Manbik

Oh my contribution:
Haxour

Remote_Access_
September 24th, 2001, 10:07 PM
"1337","L33T"," 'Leet", what ever way u want to spell it. like dude said, there's alot of different ways to spell it ;P
but any who, i guess u can spell it how ever u want but, i agree with u on that they are just hurting themselves, and others, by creating these viruses and spreading them all over the internet.
:rolleyes: latr--
Remote_