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solomon
September 23rd, 2001, 11:17 AM
hey ppl i need to get to know how to hack a web e i neeeed i need to do it on an islamic website anybody who can help or who can do it against this fanatic muslims please contact me

Long Live America
God Bless America

Tomsan
September 23rd, 2001, 11:58 AM
I cannot help you but even when I could I am not gonna help a person who's out for war
the situation is allready critical
why make it worse?

Negative
September 23rd, 2001, 07:03 PM
Solomon: http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113186 .
In Eritrea, someone is considered an adult at the age of18 (CIA report on Eritrea (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/er.html) ). Guess they should change that...

Sunflare
September 23rd, 2001, 09:34 PM
Cracking a page is wrong - unless you are in an intellegence network and your boss asks you to crack security somewhere, doing so will likely land you in jail. If you are worried about the legality of a site, report it to your local police or an online police force. Don't try to do it yourself.

PhirePhreak
September 23rd, 2001, 10:20 PM
Solomon--
In the Bible, Solomon was given a gift of wisdom. It appears to me that you are lacking in this area. It is never ethical to crack a website. If you are just dying to crack a site, contact the webmaster and try to convince them to let you do a security check on their site, and send them a list of vulnerabilities. And remember, not all Arabs and/or Muslims were responsible for the attack on America -- it was just a very extreme group.

If you want to fight for America, go join the armed forces. Otherwise, sit back and watch. And besides, what exactly would an attack on a webpage or two accomplish in the great scheme of things? Absolutely nothing.

If you go through with your plan, I sincerely hope you get busted.

Please use your head (assuming you are human and do have an actuall head).

Lascaux
September 24th, 2001, 05:42 AM
Heh heh, don't join the armed forces. Uncle Sam will kick your ass and then call it "training".

Terr
September 24th, 2001, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by solomon
hey ppl i need to get to know how to hack a web e i neeeed i need to do it on an islamic website anybody who can help or who can do it against this fanatic muslims please contact me

Long Live America
God Bless America

Excuse me... Are you trying to blame ALL islamic people for what a few PSYCHOs did? Should I blame YOU for the Unabomber (Theodore Kaczynski)? Or should I blame YOU for Timothy McVeigh?

You seem to be retarded in a moral sense. You are blaming millions of people, calling them 'fanatic muslims', simply because LESS THAN 100 (unless this gets a lot weirder) happen to be psychopathic? Should we blame ALL Christians for the KKK, the Crusades, the (P)IRA attacks in the UK? Should we blame ALL caucasians for the fact that SOME of them had slaves many years ago?

No, we should blame the society that made you so short-sighted and childish. To be fair, it's not all your fault. Maybe you want to impress some friends? To feel good about 'doing your part' to 'defend' your country against a website dedicated to an Iranian Hospital?

RogueSpy
September 24th, 2001, 06:32 PM
I feel another flame from Negative comming on! :D

EvilAlex
September 24th, 2001, 09:06 PM
Hey Lascaux
what makes u say that? Why not join Military?
:confused:

Negative
September 24th, 2001, 10:03 PM
I feel another flame from Negative comming on! Nah, Terr beat me to it this time!

Lascaux
September 24th, 2001, 11:32 PM
I am in the military. In a lot of ways it isn't worth it.

EvilAlex
September 25th, 2001, 12:16 AM
well I'm going in soon, what branch u in?

Lascaux
September 25th, 2001, 07:56 AM
Army Ranger's. I got diving school in about 5 weeks.

Gobinjf
September 25th, 2001, 08:28 AM
Hello Solomon,

I hope you were kidding. Many many calls to stop so-called vigilante hacking have been sent in the past few days that I cannot realize you are wanting to do that.

Like every person in "civilized" countries, I must admit that 09/11 bombing was nothing but an gratuitous onslaught of innoncents. And in those innocents were also Muslims.

I'm not muslim. As I don't believe in any God you Americans ask for at each moment of public life. I don't think there is a superior being that will bless or not a country or another.

But I cannot agree with "personnal war" as well with "legal war".

Your "very clever" president, Georges W. Bush, want to respond to violence with violence. Why ? For the pleasure of telling something stupid like "we killed two afghan people for one US who died on that day" ? No. He's leading another kind of terrorism. The legal one. As he is doing when not accepting to sign Kyoto's protocol. Are you gonna hacking US Govern'ment web sites ? Or Allowing Petrol Diggers to pollute Alaska. Are you going to hack Exxon or so on ? No.

So, if you are not going to fight for every injustice, please, leave muslim alone. The situation is far too complex to allow people like you, who seek revenge, to interfere and possibly ... make the war worse.

Thank you for your understanding, and sorry for my bad english. After all, it's not my mother tongue.

Jean-Francois Gobin

Lascaux
September 25th, 2001, 09:11 AM
2 things real quick. I agree with legal war, and ask Alaskans. Almost ever Alaskan you will talk to is for drilling for oil in their state.

Gobinjf
September 25th, 2001, 10:59 AM
As Alaska should stay clear, have I to hack every oil-driller web site, as well as site making propagand on oil-drilling ? No. I have no right to do that.

So, nobody has right to hack into US or Afghan or Paki or whatever-you-want web site.

RogueSpy
September 25th, 2001, 10:09 PM
Georges W. Bush, want to respond to violence with violence. Why ? - Gobinjf
So what are we supose to do, smack them on the hand and tell them not to do it again? Thats like putting a child in time out when they do something wrong.

l3aDmOnKeY
September 25th, 2001, 10:44 PM
I am also in the army, Fort Bragg. Don't take anger out on the web; let the army do its job. If you really want to get your anger out then just "ENLIST"

Negative
September 25th, 2001, 11:05 PM
If you really want to get your anger out then just "ENLIST"Yeah, that's a cool base to join the army: 'I'm angry, I'm gonna join the army, I'm gonna shoot those mother****ers, yeah, YEAH!'. Well, I prefer the script-kiddies.

It surprises me that most of you condemn the 'I was hacked, so I'm gonna hack them back'-statement, but you endorse the 'We were attacked, so let's get them back'-statement.

l3aDmOnKeY
September 25th, 2001, 11:37 PM
Well it is a big diffence to me between getting hacked and are freedom being attacked. Dipolmacy tactics only go so far. Yes it is sad countries resort to brut force but that is the way the world works.

FullySaturate
September 26th, 2001, 01:49 AM
Hey, if you see a sight and you thinks its wrong or upsetting, then don't go back there. But please stop posting idiotic requests like – teach me how to hack into websites. Most of us are here to prevent that and learn how to prevent things of that nature. Go to happyhacker.org and read the guide to mostly harmless hacking. It gives you plenty of ways to get busted without the help of anitonline.com. Have phun Cracking.

Gobinjf
September 26th, 2001, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by RogueSpy
- Gobinjf
So what are we supose to do, smack them on the hand and tell them not to do it again? Thats like putting a child in time out when they do something wrong.

I've never said that. There were already thousands of deads. Why fight back ? To make that list longer ?

There are others ways to punish the culprit, without killing innocents.

Jean-Francois Gobin.

PhirePhreak
September 27th, 2001, 06:29 AM
At the risk of getting flamed by Negative yet again (I consider it as a sort of "Red Badge of Courage"), I am going to post another reply.

First off, the war that Bush is about to start is a war against terrorism IN GENERAL. The US is going to crack down harder on terrorism than it has in the past.

It surprises me that most of you condemn the 'I was hacked, so I'm gonna hack them back'-statement, but you endorse the 'We were attacked, so let's get them back'-statement.

But do people get killed by having websites hacked? NO! Do people die when jetliners crash into buildings at high speeds? ABSOLUTELY. Does anyone else see the difference?

The US is not fighting back just for revenge. We seek to send a message: Terrorism will no longer be tolerated.

I'm not saying that I agree with everything GWB is doing, but, as a PROUD American, I will support it.

But I do agree that we must all keep in mind that Muslims in general were not responsible for the attacks. A few people, who just happenned to be Islamic, were. Just like Christians were not responsible for the mistreatment of African-Americans. A group of people calling itself the KKK, who just happenned to be largely Christian, were. The list goes on and on. We must always keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of people in general (including Muslims, Christians, Atheists, whatever) are not going around killing people. A few people from every religion, race, sex, ethnic group, are doing that.

Negative: sorry for singling out your post. And I am prepared to proudly accept any flames you may have to offer :)

Negative
September 27th, 2001, 06:56 AM
PhirePhreak for president! Now! And give that man a purple heart (or is it a cross?)!

The 'statement' I made, was about principles and ethics, about being consistent...

'Fight whatever with the same whatever'...
'Let the punishment fit the crime'...
I've heard those a lot lately.

The crime, that one is obvious, is defacing a website. But what's the punishment? Deface the defacer's website?
Rape the raper, anyone?

The crime, that one is obvious, is flying a jet into a building. But what's the punishment? Fly a yet into the terrorist's building? They're dead already, you know... I agree with punishing everyone who was involved, though.

But how about this: someone commits a murder. He confesses, and to make the punishment fit the crime, the murderer gets murdered ('executed'). Guess all there's a left to do then, is find someone to kill the executioner (to make the punishment fit the crime). Oh yeah, and find someone to kill the murderers executioner. And while you're at it, find someone to kill the murderers executioners executioner... But no, says GBW, the executioner did not commit a crime by executing the murderer, he did his job... Depends on which side you're on, I guess...

PhirePhreak
September 27th, 2001, 07:13 AM
Well, you got me. Very good point. You have no clue how much I now respect you. Were you ever enrolled in a debate class in high school or college? If so, it shows. If not, you should have taught it.

The way I understand what you're saying is this: The terrorists should be punished, but who should punish them. Please correct me on this if I am wrong. Well, the terrorists that committed the aforementioned act of terrorism have already been punished... they died. But now, what to do with the organization behind them?

Frankly, I don't care what happens to them, as long as nothing like this happens in the US again. Unfortunately, as a result of GWB's war, more instances of terrorism will occur in America. More lives will be lost. More blood shed. More tears cried. More debates unleashed on AntiOnline.

Another problem is that WWIII seems to be just what GWB is calling for. Unfortunately, this is exactly what bin Laden wants. So what do we do?

Again, let me re-iterate that, even though I don't agree with everything Bush does, I, as an American, place my full support behind this country. But not just this country, but all those who do not harbor terrorists.

Terrorism must stop one way or another.

Gobinjf
September 27th, 2001, 07:18 AM
That for the murdered and the murdered murderer and the murdered murderer's murderer and the murdered (murderer's)^(n) murderer, the difference is quite noticeable.

But well, if someone want to test its hacking abilities, just send me a mail, I still need volunteers to test my system.

Jean-Francois

And now, no more politics.

Giovanni
September 29th, 2001, 07:53 PM
I admire this guy for getting off his ass...or on it...and doing something political..even if it does involve slight illegalities.

Down with the arabs.

ahah

Terr
September 29th, 2001, 08:27 PM
Oh. Wow. A hanss sig.

Can you feel my excitement? <yawn>

I guess what bothers me about equating computer crime with terrorism is that first of all, the matter of scale is different. Now, messing with a airport-traffic-control computer might be an exception...

Also, I just would rather not have a sort of 'Terrorism-class' blanket covering all electronic crime, because you get this tendency for less-knowledgable people to 'set an example' by invoking something harsher-than-normal on Mr. Poking-around-the-system.

Sunflare
September 30th, 2001, 07:05 PM
Think about the probable consequence of the U.S. fighting countries that support terrorism, through any means. When a superpower, such as the U.S. is hit, they generally just hit back - a little harder. But what happens if you're the one that's getting hit by the superpower? You can't bomb them back. You can't really send an army over there - they'd wipe your country off the face of the earth. What you can do, however, is tell your people who is responsible for the sanction that is causeing your children to die in the thousands from a lack of something they need to import. You can tell your people who is responsible for the bombs that are going off in your country, and you can tell them who is supplying the radical groups that want to overthrow the government with the weaponry they need to become dangerous. What you end up with are thousands of people who hate the U.S. badly enough to become soldier-fanatics. This is where terrorism comes from - it is the only way these people can fight back. It doesn't really matter if it was them or us who threw the first punch - the fight will continue indefinately unless we dont escalate it. The answer to this problem is not to punish entire countries for the actions of the government, or to supply radicals with weapons to punish the country for us. The answer can only be to help the countries that birth terrorist organizations evolve enough so that the average person does not need to become a terrorist or a radical in order to feed his children. When this is done, then you can move in and take out the terrorist organizations - they wont just spring up again as soon as you leave, because there is no need for them any longer.

stflook
October 10th, 2001, 02:27 AM
I don't care how extreme their message is, that is NO EXCUSE to hack them. That just makes you worse than them. I'm a gun person. Does that give me an excuse to crash any site that supports gun control? OF COURSE NOT! It's people like you, people who try to tamper with other people's rights because they disagree, that make this country so miserable to live in.

You want to know how to hack their site? Fine. I'll tell you.

1. Go to your medicine cabinet.
2. Find anything in pill form (preferrably a narcotic or barbiturate).
3. Swallow the whole bottle-full.
4. Go watch TV for about half an hour.

There. Do this, and you won't have to put up with that pesky site anymore.

Eating_Scarlett
October 10th, 2001, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by Terr



You seem to be retarded in a moral sense.


*LMFAO*

knightmb
October 10th, 2001, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by solomon
hey ppl i need to get to know how to hack a web e i neeeed i need to do it on an islamic website anybody who can help or who can do it against this fanatic muslims please contact me

Long Live America
God Bless America

Don't do it!! Please!! Hacking their websites is like spray painting "America is 1337" on their cars :p

Terr
October 10th, 2001, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Eating_Scarlett
Originally posted by Terr


You seem to be retarded in a moral sense.






*LMFAO*

I like that phrase too.

KaKoKoOl
October 10th, 2001, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by solomon
hey ppl i need to get to know how to hack a web e i neeeed i need to do it on an islamic website anybody who can help or who can do it against this fanatic muslims please contact me

Long Live America
God Bless America



Da Saniya kus maa espee ghana

casper3699
October 11th, 2001, 06:45 AM
There is NO reason to destroy someone elses site at all even if you claim it is for your country. Let the government take care of it, that is what they are here for. If you don't like the site why do you go there in the first place. This website is for SECURITY not for hacking and defacing a website.:D

FullySaturate
October 14th, 2001, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by stflook
I don't care how extreme their message is, that is NO EXCUSE to hack them. That just makes you worse than them. I'm a gun person. Does that give me an excuse to crash any site that supports gun control? OF COURSE NOT! It's people like you, people who try to tamper with other people's rights because they disagree, that make this country so miserable to live in.

You want to know how to hack their site? Fine. I'll tell you.

1. Go to your medicine cabinet.
2. Find anything in pill form (preferrably a narcotic or barbiturate).
3. Swallow the whole bottle-full.
4. Go watch TV for about half an hour.

There. Do this, and you won't have to put up with that pesky site anymore.

Ok Stflook here is a list of things you should do; get a pen and write this down its going to help you get through the rest of your life.

1. Your a gun guy - so go to the gun store
2. buy a good size gun
3. buy some bullets
4. load the gun
5. aim at your head
6. squeeze the trigger, don't pull, some one of your inelegance may just miss.

There, do this and you won't have to put up with yourself anymore.

Ennis
October 14th, 2001, 10:14 PM
Anybody with a moral bone in their body is not going to deface a site purely for this reason, its not right.
Thats all Ive to say on the matter.

casper3699
October 15th, 2001, 12:26 AM
That is the reason hackers are getting a bad name:(

RogueSpy
October 15th, 2001, 05:47 AM
Hackers. . . Hackers. . . Hackers. . . Last time I checked, people who defaced sites & crap were called CRACKERS. Thats why hackers get a bad name. . The media, and some people. . . . .
:rolleyes: dont know the difference between the two. . . Thats just my opinion.