Micro$oft

[phantom2k]

:confused:

Win2k and alll windows I knew
are realy SHIT !!!!
ALL are smellin' .


BUT

WINDOWS XP
i think it'll the best .

windows everyboby know it's very straight end shited
on the diffence
but windows xp....

[Negative]

Can SOMEBODY pleaaase translate this one for me??? Windows smells like shit? Hey, Windows should be used in your house, not in your stable. What are you using it for? To clean your stables? I guess the bigger the box, the easier it is to clean your stables with. Don't know about XP's box size, though...

[knightmb]

I think he is confusing Windows and Shit. Perhaps he/she was buying some composs from Microsoft and they gave him a demo version of Windows 95 or something :p Like they use to give away demos of OS/2

As for Windows XP, damn, I just got Windows 2000 and it works fine, no problems. I gotta upgrade again :mad: , good thing I get all of these for free :eek:

[RogueSpy]

::sniff sniff::
What is that freaken smell?

[Ennis]

Well Windows, ah MS-DOS. Memories of wait, whats that partitioning my hard drive. Wait its some kind of Linux.

You all have to respect some aspect of Windows [Personal Favourite Windows 98]. We all know 90% of Pc owners are running Windows and its a fact a lot of hackers do. Its an escape from hard computer studies, learning the next programming language, studying damn exploits, whatever.

Windows is an ok, unsecure but still ok OS, real hackers dont abandon Windows just because they run Linux or FreeBSD, its still a good OS.

Linux is better, by far and gives us a more secure feel, thats the only reason Irun Linux, Im a hacker.

[Neophyte]

Originally posted by phantom2k
:confused:

Win2k and alll windows I knew
are realy SHIT !!!!
ALL are smellin' .


BUT

WINDOWS XP
i think it'll the best .

windows everyboby know it's very straight end shited
on the diffence
but windows xp....

A classic case of modern education gone wrong!

[xstonedogx]

Can SOMEBODY pleaaase translate this one for me???

I speak Jive. The gentleman* is saying he* finds Windows versions previous to XP to be lacking -in what, he doesn't say-, but that XP is ok.

A classic case of modern education gone wrong!

To blame the quoted post on "modern education" is unfair. There is no evidence the gentleman is educated in any way.


*The use of the masculine does not in anyway imply a masculine subject, nor does it disclude a feminine subject, but is used in a general manner for clarity.

[rnapro]

Win2k and alll windows I knew
are realy SHIT !!!!
ALL are smellin' .


BUT

WINDOWS XP
i think it'll the best .

windows everyboby know it's very straight end shited
on the diffence
but windows xp....

I had a hard time but I think I have cracked the code.....

Windows 2000 and other Windows platforms are not very good! I turn my nose up to them all.

I feel Windows XP will be the best.

Everyone knows Microsoft has been on the defensive until Windows XP.

[Evil Homer]

I think that the little :confused: thing at the top of his post explains it all, hes confused, he has no idea what hes trying to say - this is just what happens when you use spraypaint in small enclosed area, read your warning lables people before you too lose the ability to construct a coherent sentence!

[halo]

Greets All...
Im not sure why ppl always knock windows, calling it an "unsecure OS". im not speaking about exchange or IIS, as i dont know enough about those systems, but i do know that due to the *openness and user friendly environment that MS deploys by default, (which could attribute to their huge dominance of the market) does not make it an unsecure OS, that would be poor administration of the system. most of these "unsecure" boxes are also run by full-time secretary/part-time IT Admin. when properly set up, windows is quite secure.

[sparkant]

Oh djeez

Is XP really the best? Enlighten me ppl, because I was under the impression that XP was the worst MS OS ever. Did I understand the shit with registration right? Is it really true XP sends info about usage etc to MS? Enlighten me!

I think I found the smell ;)

Grtz,

[rnapro]

As I read my last reply I realized that I sound like I am supporting what phantom2k was saying. Just for the record I do not. I was only trying to translate his babble.

As far as Win XP I am not sure I like the new registration rules. If it works anything like Offixe XP we will only be required to give non personal information, but who is to say the code isn't getting other information from the registry and passing it to MS. An OS that monitors what hardware upgrade I perform. I am not sold no matter how well the OS operates.:mad:

[Negative]

Love it or hate it, but Windows 95's Registration Wizard already checked your pc for about 150 software titles and sent the list to Redmond. I started a new thread (http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116104) to ad(d) your own...

[deadpaperplate]

Nearly everyone I have talked to about winXP said the same thing.
Its great, and never crashes.

This reminds me of when win2K came out, everyone said the same thing about it.
Then 4 months later, thier win2k systems started crashing all the time.

Hmm, I wonder how long XP will last.

[TotalChaos(D~Sq]

I have on disk win95,95osr-2,win98,98se Im smelling now........
I smell dinner for the kicthen.:zap:

[Galdron]

Ennis said "I run Linux, Im a Hacker" LOL
No smart hacker admits to being one, get over it!

About windows XP, Its all in the Socks baby! A perfect tool for exploiting if you ask me. Ppl running it will never know the extent of how insecure they can really be. GRC.com read and learn.

Galdron Remembers the Onion Router
The Onion Router is No Longer
Gov't Servers are full of Holes LOL
Long live Crypto!!!!

[knightmb]

Yeah, most don't admit to it, but most of them also have 10 computers in their living room running every possible OS out there too ;)

[Galdron]

Good point knight, My question is, Why does Microsoft constantly rush to put out Products that they Damn well know are full of possible Exploits? When They were approached regarding the possible "negative" uses for Winxp, they simply denied the fact that they were

1. Setting up users with a system that is extrmely vulnerable
(I do appreciate that heheh)

2. Rushing it onto the market because the needed a product that users wanted in response to the disaster of WinMe. Win 98 is as far as I have gone,as the rest are crap. I will get XP though.


hmmm Makes me wonder.

[dark1]

Originally posted by Evil Homer
I think that the little :confused: thing at the top of his post explains it all, hes confused, he has no idea what hes trying to say - this is just what happens when you use spraypaint in small enclosed area, read your warning lables people before you too lose the ability to construct a coherent sentence!


ROCK ON EVIL HOMER

[GaNnOn]

HELLO!

Just thought I would add that Microsoft trying to gather user info is not any thing new even the chipsets on intel motherboards are sending user data every time u access the interne, and the only way to stop them is to download a patch from the microsoft web site. Also from what I can tell Winxp is goin to have verry few security fetures that will really pose a chalange to a serious hacker. By the way quick survey what is everyones favorite OS? Mine is Win98. :D

[Terr]

Yeah, go Win98! I feel very secure with it because it just doesn't DO enough to be abused! :D

[lucentt]

I would feel more comfortable knowing that whoever phantom2k is, he or she can't procreate. The kid would probably be raised with propr inglesh and post dumbshit stuff. Win2k is fine, 98se is fine, linux is the best.

[Ennis]

Originally posted by Galdron
Ennis said "I run Linux, Im a Hacker" LOL
No smart hacker admits to being one, get over it!



Wasnt exactly what I meant, I mean if I wasnt interested in hacking or security I would never run Linux but simply Windows. I am not looking to brag here.

[Negative]

Originally posted by Galdron:
When They were approached regarding the possible "negative" uses for Winxp, they simply denied the fact that they were I'd like to make an official statement on this one: I have nothing, I repeat nothing, to do with the possible uses for WinXP. Just to make sure....

[Galdron]

For the record:

In no way am I implicating "Negative" the person, in any malicious uses of any OS, He is perfectlt capable of implicating himself! hahahahah J/K

[knightmb]

Originally posted by Galdron
Good point knight, My question is, Why does Microsoft constantly rush to put out Products that they Damn well know are full of possible Exploits? When They were approached regarding the possible "negative" uses for Winxp, they simply denied the fact that they were

1. Setting up users with a system that is extrmely vulnerable
(I do appreciate that heheh)

2. Rushing it onto the market because the needed a product that users wanted in response to the disaster of WinMe. Win 98 is as far as I have gone,as the rest are crap. I will get XP though.


hmmm Makes me wonder.

Answer to Question #1:
Money!!

Answer to Question #2:
Money!!

Ever wonder why they charge $80 at CompUSA for a distro of Linux? It's a free OS, but Mandrake 8.1 was $80, so I said f*** that, I'll download it. Took a whole day at 100K/bytes sec to download that thing (3 gigs). Even a free OS still makes money, so it must all be about the $$$$ :(

[Ennis]

Damn if it wasnt for money driven companies there would be a lot less products on the market, the internet would be a desolate place and Bill Gates would be an IRC cop.

[stflook]

Originally posted by phantom2k
:confused:

Win2k and alll windows I knew
are realy SHIT !!!!
ALL are smellin' .


BUT

WINDOWS XP
i think it'll the best .

windows everyboby know it's very straight end shited
on the diffence
but windows xp....


If you can't speak intelligently, don't speak. Can you at least give REASONS for your opinion?

[prof3ssor]

I don't belive you have the background nor experience to say what is 'shit' or not 'shit'. You just like windows XP because of the skins. You are a visual person. You have a very tough time learning and using command line-based OSs so you probably have not even tried any others. You are just trying to fit in with all the other 'hackers' that bash m|cR0$of7.

There that is my sosicalogical rundown of your personality after one post.

By the way Ennis, and everyone else for that matter, don't think you are a hacker until a hacker you are as such. And never tell people WHAT you are. That is for them to decide.

[Ron the don]

I am understanding the windowz part but after that my mind fogs up ?
Perhaps we need to recyle some data on os'z for people to read

I know i like a good 30 page spread on whats working.
Yeah

Bill hasnt made any money off this (he's not rich) people dont use it ?

Its all lies i tell ya ;)

[Galdron]

Professor, and stlook, Who are you posting to? I see ranting, about people not knowing anything. But who are you ranting to?
Other than Bashing Ennis, (Who has made several worthy posts, some not), yet I have never seen any information from either of you.

Makes me wonder. Are you as l33t, as you want to sound?

[mydeathstar]

phantom....dude...what is the deal. does anyone really talk like that. is that "kEwwWL"

[Ennis]

Ok I have much to clear up here.

That single post has so far given me the most hassle of all I have made, in fact me and Galdron ended up in a bit of a flame war which was sorted out. Im sure he has still some annoyances with me as I may with him but we realise that you cannot pick every bone or line aperson posts.

Sftlook and Prof I have no problem with you too so long as you add valid points as I have seen you do before.

Anyway by this post I meant I would not run Linux if I wasnt a hacker, if I was not interested in security I would not care for Linux. If I had no interest in the basics of programming I try learn I would not use Linux. I would simply run Windows. I am not elite hacker who has any superior knowledge to anyone here just a little bit to add to help as many as I can while Im still around.

I am not going to waste my time hating or flaming anybody because I made a mistake and misphrased a post.

So I hope you realise it was a casual mistake, I did not mean it the way you see it. Let it slide and I will try show you I am not here to look bigger than anybody, just trying to be helpful thats all.

Thanks.
Ennis

I need a drink now .:drink:

[freeOn]

Hey WINDOWS XP PRO really is the best of all windows, Microsoft went all out when they made XP pro.

I would have to agree with everyone that thought XP was the best Microsoft OS out there.

Trust me I would run Red Hat Linux, but I don't have the right modem. So I use windows, and trust me I think if there was a choice I would take XP.

NO INTERNET=No LInux(I know it sucks but I can't afford it).:D splat splat

[makija]

:cool:


hehehe i dont know for XP i didnt try it jet but all people said its good
am on Winblowz98 ehhehehe and i am keep on geting errors every 10 minutes hehe but i like it (: <


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I Am D3stR0y3r


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[phantom2k]

You god damn right,
but I use linux, NT, XP.
EAnd We've wrote another unix hybird with QNX and
a part of source's XP sucked by a hacker's site.
And we're workin' about the trojan strike attack.

ANd that's smellin' like shit.
Xp ok.
But what's your OS ?

[phantom2k]

MAkija,
YOu would be a D3stR0y3r !
I am a cR@sHr !

And hack with Win**** 98 is so dumb
work on NT ! IT'S THE LEAST SHIT !
You have to get XP or a Linux !

[SolidPez]

XP is alright if you like being Bill's warm..........cuddly.......personal......private...........SLAVE!(Ok, I realize I may be exaggerating a bit...........Or am I?;) )

[stflook]

Originally posted by Galdron
Professor, and stlook, Who are you posting to? I see ranting, about people not knowing anything. But who are you ranting to?
Other than Bashing Ennis, (Who has made several worthy posts, some not), yet I have never seen any information from either of you.

Makes me wonder. Are you as l33t, as you want to sound?


Originally posted by Ennis
Sftlook and Prof I have no problem with you too so long as you add valid points as I have seen you do before.

Before I get flamed any further, let me clarify that I was talking about phantom2ks post(s) and how dumb they are. I don't need to add valid points, as I am trying to extract valid points from him. Also, who is trying to sound l33t? I resent that accusation.

I really wish people would send me private messages when there are misunderstandings like this. I could have noticed and corrected this a lot sooner. It would have saved me a lot of hate and negative AntiPoints.

I have edited the post as to eliminate any further confusion. Please don't think I was badmouthing Ennis. I have nothing against him. I'm sorry for the confusion.

[Negative]

Originally posted by phantom2k
soso NEGATIVE

Euh... Are you replying to my 09/27/2001 reply?

EAnd We've wrote another unix hybird with QNX and
a part of source's XP sucked by a hacker's site.
And we're workin' about the trojan strike attack.
Great man, great! Go for it!
'source's XP sucked by a hacker's site....'... Dang, why didn't I come up with that?

ANd that's smellin' like shit.
Euh... And you're talking about...?

Xp ok.
Are you telexing this message?

But what's your OS ?
Well, EAnd We've wrote another WinXP hybrid with ZYQ and a part of source's Linux sucked by a hacker's site.
Pretty 3l33t, no?
Nah!

[Kain]

Ok I work at tech support for about 100+ ISP's.
All I get when it comes to winxp is problems. This has to be absolutely the worst OS Microsoft ever came out with. Speaking from personal experience, the difference between the home version and the professional version is so much that you can barely troubleshoot between the two, due to the fact that the home version has a few options set in different places. I'm tired of everyone thinking windows xp is the best....learn how to use an OS and get something that works!

[UberC0der]

``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><, Win2k and alll windows I knew
are realy SHIT !!!! ``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><,ALL are smellin' . BUT, ``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><,WINDOWS XP
i think it'll the best . ``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><, windows everyboby know it's very straight end shited, ``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><, on the diffence, ``#@{&*^%^$$#@ ``:><?><, but windows xp.... ME LIKEY !!!

::'' transmitted a particularly unstructured piece of code.


:: "He Doesn't like Win 95/NT/98/200.'' decoded his coroutine.


:: "I don't like them either. I am queued for deletion on 12 systems.''

[GodZeus101]

Originally posted by Kain
Ok I work at tech support for about 100+ ISP's.
All I get when it comes to winxp is problems. This has to be absolutely the worst OS Microsoft ever came out with.

You said you work at a Tech Support position for 100+ ISP's right? Not that your statement itself makes much sense, but I would think that when you provide tech help to someone is because something came up wrong, right? I mean, it would be dumb sor someone to call you and tell you. " OMG WinXP is the BEST! ok.. bye bye :: click:: "
Anyways, I think that XP is pretty much a good OS, and I think its time that everyone that is so much against XP and Microsoft itself would give it some lever of recognition.
Okay, thats my 2 cents worth.

[ThePreacher]

I hate to start arguing the issue again, but MoneySoft makes it too hard to resist. I do not like XP.

If someone pointed a gun at my head and said "get XP or die", I would calmly reply "OH SHIT!!! PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!!! I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU SAY!!!" I would then go to the store, purchase XP Pro because it doesnt require product registration("thats right activation is registration boys and girls and micro$oft can track everything that you do once you activate" said the paranoid rabbit). I would find that my ISA bus modem, that is needed to use for linux, is useless and now must be replaced with a PERFORMANCE ENHANCING Winmodem. I hop over and try to use some of the java applications that I wrote and whoops--XP doesnt have support for java. Oh well. I try to use linux after words and whoops--XP deleted the dual boot loader. I try to access my scanner and whoops--the driver for my scanner doesnt work and the company is out of business. Guess Im SOoL(shit out of luck). At least its more stable than Windows 98. Gee that was worth $299. Id like it if someone would run a copy of ad-aware on a freshly installed Windows XP that no changes have been made to. How much spyware does microsoft install default.

[GrimMan]

Wasn't this thread originally about micrsoft smelling bad?
I had my hopes all up, my bad pun loaded and at the ready too...
ah well

Oh, and there are a skadillion cracks out there for XP, as well as regedits and other little backdoors to get around MS's gestapo garbagio
-Grim
:borg:

[lord_darkside_x]

XP is by far the best o/s that microsoft has built. um... it works great... never crashes, most stable yet... no linux.... but better then the earlier versions of windows. as for the registration.... REGISTRATION IS OPTIONAL.... the only thing you lose is tech support and who needs that? all you need is the install key for it to work. and bootlegging is possible... it can be burned and DOES NOT force you to register after 30 days, bootleg or not. this i know for fact.... i know many people bootlegging it.

[protocool]

if windows does not remove their registry files... therefore, windows will still sucks! (i hope you know what registry is!?!). logically windows xp still sucks! ;)

[lord_darkside_x]

yes i know what the registry is.... but i hate to tell you.... it doesn't suck. it's not the best.... but it gets the job done when i am not using linux ( i hope you know what linux is ;) ). and it gets the job done with out crashing and with out screwing up major important parts of my pc. therefore it's better then before, and therefore it could be worse

[paulcottingham]

I dont know why Xp is getting such a hard time, out of the box (well, virtual box anyway ;) )it works well and install didnt cause me any aggro.

Everyone knows ME is the worst M$ OS ever

IPSO 3.3FCS-3 is the OS of choice.

Fat women are like mopeds. They're fun to ride until your best friend sees you on one ;)

[ThePreacher]

I dont know why Xp is getting such a hard time, out of the box (well, virtual box anyway )it works well and install didnt cause me any aggro.

XP is not my problem, it is microsoft. I purchased a copy of mandrake linux 8.1, it had ftp server software, smtp server software, dns server software, http server software, an office suite for word processing, three web browsers, cd burning software, firewall software, two different desktop environments, support for almost all of my peripherals, a good selection of games, mp3 playing software, graphics editing software, development areas for programming, and the best part is that it cost $20.00 U.S. dollars. Since it includes so much server software, the only package windows has that comes close is Windows 2000 server. Expect to spend $500 on this product. Or if you want a microsoft product in the same price range, you could probably purchase Windows 3.1 for the same price.

[Pooh-Bear]

And it gets even better now that M$ has started their new "rent a license" policy. I was at a seminar last night and I couldn´t believe my eyes when they informed about this new thing with straight faces!

[VictorKaum]

I'am happy with my Win2k box but still use Win98, Win95, Win NT4, and Linux on other boxes. They all perform fine except the bleu screens who appear from time to time :mad:

Shouldn't schools, colleges, universities,... get a copy of a Linux OS so people learn to use a real OS and see what comes behind the grfx.

Some1 said that Win98 was his best OS cause it's does nearly anything. I Disagree -> make your OS doing what you want.

[pakbehl]

Yea, why don't any schools teach any real computer skills??? All the people in the field just have to learn it for themselves? How dumb, it sounds like a communistic idea doesn't it, schools not allowing certain knowledge to be attained, alot of it isn't even illegal.

[lord_darkside_x]

some public high schools and all colleges have unix labs. in college, all c programming is taught on a unix sun system. many high schools don't have the money to have two labs and as sad as it is *most people are not going to be programmers, and the business world lives by microsoft* so why teach something only 20% of the class needs? this is why many states don't have it, but i know in PA (where i live) there are many high schools with unix labs. ( at least 50%)

[protocool]

windows or windows is still windows!

[pakbehl]

Jeez, I'm just trying to bitch about the school system, you don't gotta ruin it fer me.
OH WHY WONT YOU JUST LET ME BITCH!!?!?!
WOWAYS MEEEE!!
hehe, just kidding in case you didn't catch the sarcasm

[VictorKaum]

Originally posted by lord_darkside_x
some public high schools and all colleges have unix labs. in college, all c programming is taught on a unix sun system. many high schools don't have the money to have two labs and as sad as it is *most people are not going to be programmers, and the business world lives by microsoft* so why teach something only 20% of the class needs? this is why many states don't have it, but i know in PA (where i live) there are many high schools with unix labs. ( at least 50%)

Maybe you are right, I was just enthousiast. You have made some good points.

But why does M$ is considered among the masse's to be the only OS for pc? If schools let their students 'meet' Linux, it had more addepts.

At my place mostly universities use unix and linux (mine does) intense. Not high schools or basic schools

[ThePreacher]

Originally posted by lord_darkside_x
some public high schools and all colleges have unix labs. in college, all c programming is taught on a unix sun system. many high schools don't have the money to have two labs and as sad as it is *most people are not going to be programmers, and the business world lives by microsoft* so why teach something only 20% of the class needs? this is why many states don't have it, but i know in PA (where i live) there are many high schools with unix labs. ( at least 50%)

Let me tell you how lucky you were to go to such a nice high school. I am not in school anymore and I am glad because here in Kansas City, due to the fact that the schools had a very tight budget they decided that since most of our books were outdated and torn apart, they would eliminate school books all together on the middle school level. Instead they would make xerox copies of lessons for students. As fo computers there was a very outdated lab running Windows 3.1 good for only typing. A unix lab would have been unheard of due to budget restraints and the fact that they would have to pay someone who understood unix to teach the class and maintain the lab. Im sure that in the rich neighboring suburban cities there are unix labs, but ive never been there.

btw I hope my resentment isnt too apparent, and as a side note I am not against people who live in the suburbs, I just feel that those of us who live in the city should recieve an equal education.